Phonographen.com needs Beta Testers

Hello,
My name is Fritz Unger. Me and my team developing a new website especially for collectors of cylinder and disk machines.
We design a Forum, a short history review, an ebay Database for sellers of parts .....
Everthing there would be for free. We want to unite the collectors and their knowlegde from all over the world at one place to help beginners and searching restorers etc.
Our Forum and some parts are already finished. But all our developers are from germany, so we

Hi Fritz,

Your site looks great! I've registered as a member of the forum.

Shane (gramophoneshane)

Thank you, theres more than 1Year work inside until now.

Hello, no you can see the first phonographs online.
We hope you like our first 6 Phonographs.
Please look at:

http://www.phonographen.com/html/collection.html

Yours

Fritz

I found a few date errors in the history:

Double-sided shellac record - 1909 Odeon Records

33 rpm long playing vinyl record - 1948 Columbia Records

45 rpm single - 1949 RCA Victor

thank you, we will correct it as fast as possible.

Fritz

Could you please tell me, how the videos in "Collection Manfred Unger" works ?
Is the Qulity too high or are you able to open them ?

Thank you


Fritz

I just found that my date error post is in error. Odeon made the first double-side in 1908.

Fritz,

Both Columbia & Victor introduced double-faced discs in 1908. English Zonophone came out with The Twin double-faced disc the same year. I believe Odeon had a double faced 7" disc circa 1904.

Regarding any million seller claims-I have been looking into that recently and am of the opinion that most million seller claims from the 1920's and before are hearsay. Below is a link to and a quote from an interesting article and my comment posted on another on-line board. A note about Dalhart's record-there were two recordings one acoustic and another electric re-issue.


http://www.mainspringpress.com/millions.html
THE "MILLION SELLER" FALLACY:
A Reappraisal of 1920s Record Sales
By Allan Sutton

"One of the earliest and most persistent myths is that Alma Gluck's 1914 "Carry Me Back to Old Virginny" (Victor 74420) was the first Red Seal—or the first record of any kind, in some accounts—to sell a million copies. In this case, we are fortunate that Victor researcher John Bolig was able to unearth sales figures in the Victor files at the Sony/BMG Archive (New York). The discrepancy is astonishing: The Victor files show total sales of only 70,189 copies. (No figures have been located for the later double-sided reissue, but as it was in the catalog for only a few years, and is markedly less common than the single-sided issue, it seems unlikely to account for the remaining 929,811 copies.) This, in fact, was quite a good sales figure for a Red Seal during the 1915-1925 period; many of these expensive records sold in far smaller quantities"

I do tend to believe the more conservative numbers cited in this article. I do stand corrected regarding whether there were any million sellers in the middle or early twenties. Apparently Dalhart's "Wreck Of The Old 97" was a million seller. It's a fascinating article.

Regards,
J.

Fritz, welcome to the phonoland forum! Please don't post messages with links to your website everywhere, it's getting close to spam. I am leaving this topic open, but I have moved it to category "found on the web" which is more appropriate, but I removed the other topic about this website.

Well,
If you guess the links are disturbing....
I think they´re needful. OK anyway i´ll don´t post them again.

And the "phonofan ?" article.
I hadn´t written it. Please note that i´m webmaster for my own, so i know what you know .
My Internet Connection is used by many persons, some of them are collectors too. I can´t rule out the possibility that it was written on my PC. But actually i dont think :/

Hold your eyes open.

Greetings

Fritz Unger