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How to wire up a Seeburg master volume control MRVC-2

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 1:54 am
by frankromita58
Hi everyone.
I was hoping that any of you have wiring schematics on how to wire up the Master Remote Volume control MRVC-2 .
I have a Seeburg KD200 that I purchased a master remote volume control for and it suppose to connect to a 9 pin
dummy plug. I have the 9 pin dummy plug where you unplug your normal volume control, and wire up the remote to the 9 pins.
Number 1-9. it came with 7 feet of wire, and the remote is suppose to be tested and working.

The colors of the 5 wires are white and black red brown and green. I traced the white and black, and connected them to record eject button.
The eject button works fine.
I'm left with red brown and green , to connect to the dummy plug. I need to know if all 5 wires get connected to the dummy plug, and which pin numbers they connect to.
Any help from any of you is greatly appreciated

Regards
Frank.

Re: How to wire up a Seeburg master volume control MRVC-2

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:04 am
by Ron Rich
Hi Frank,
You can do one of the following three things-- 1. Look in the service manual. 2. Look at the VC that is now connected, and trace the wires ( I would dis-regard colors !), Or, 3. Axk the seller how to wire it. Ron Rich

Re: How to wire up a Seeburg master volume control MRVC-2

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:08 am
by Rob-NYC
Ok Frank, here are the connections:

http://www.verntisdale.com/schem/kd-200.jpg

Inside the dotted line is the volume control module.
Pin:

1-Pot high side.
2 N.C.
3 High side loudness tap
4 N.C.
5 Low side loudness tap.
6 N.C.
7 Control arm.
8 N.C.
9 Ground end of pot -this is the extreme counter-clockwise position.

--The are as viewed from the solder connection side of the plug NOT the pin side.

- Use shielded cable with stranded wires -not solid.

Rob-NYC

Re: How to wire up a Seeburg master volume control MRVC-2

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 3:35 pm
by frankromita58
Rob-NYC wrote:Ok Frank, here are the connections:

http://www.verntisdale.com/schem/kd-200.jpg

Inside the dotted line is the volume control module.
Pin:

1-Pot high side.
2 N.C.
3 High side loudness tap
4 N.C.
5 Low side loudness tap.
6 N.C.
7 Control arm.
8 N.C.
9 Ground end of pot -this is the extreme counter-clockwise position.

--The are as viewed from the solder connection side of the plug NOT the pin side.

- Use shielded cable with stranded wires -not solid.

Rob-NYC

Re: How to wire up a Seeburg master volume control MRVC-2

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 3:42 pm
by frankromita58
Thanks alot Rob for the great information on how to wire the remote volume control.
I will follow your instruction and give you a follow up later.
At least I got something to work with.
I confident that the information you sent me will work.

Thanks again Rob-NYC
Regards
Frank

Re: How to wire up a Seeburg master volume control MRVC-2

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:07 pm
by frankromita58
frankromita58 wrote:Thanks alot Rob for the great information on how to wire the remote volume control.
I will follow your instruction and give you a follow up later.
At least I got something to work with.
I confident that the information you sent me will work.

Thanks again Rob-NYC
Regards
Frank

Re: How to wire up a Seeburg master volume control MRVC-2

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:19 pm
by frankromita58
Hi Rob
One quick question there 5 wires from the remote volume control.
white black green brown and red. Do these color wires have to be on the right pin numbers.
When I tried to hook it up the toggle switch increase the volume only when you push it up and hold it in the
up position, when I release it , the volume drops.
How many wires connect to the 9 pin dummy?
Could this be due to the connection. Do the white and black wires connect only to the reject button, and also to the 9 pins?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards
Frank.

Re: How to wire up a Seeburg master volume control MRVC-2

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:25 pm
by Rob-NYC
One quick question there 5 wires from the remote volume control.
white black green brown and red. Do these color wires have to be on the right pin numbers.
When I tried to hook it up the toggle switch increase the volume only when you push it up and hold it in the up position, when I release it , the volume drops.
How many wires connect to the 9 pin dummy?


Hold-on a minute here Frank, an MRVC-2 is a remote where the audio from the jukebox goes through it.

A PRVC-x is what uses a toggle switch to raise and lower level. There is no "dummy plug" -wires are connected to screw terminals..

This is what an MRVC-x looks like (see original listing):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161602924569

The colors don't matter, however the wires inside the shield are used for the audio and any outside are for the reject.

Rob

Re: How to wire up a Seeburg master volume control MRVC-2

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:07 pm
by frankromita58
Hi Rob
Really thanks for the update, I guess l got the wrong remote volume control. I have the one with toggle switch, l guess there's no way to made due the one with the toggle to work, or will It even work on my KD200.
I would have to purchase the one you sent me the link for the
MRVC- 2
Let me know if you think I can make the toggle switch work.
Thanks again Rob-NYC
Regards
Frank

Re: How to wire up a Seeburg master volume control MRVC-2

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:25 pm
by Rob-NYC
Frank, there is no practical way to make that type work.

Other than buying one on E-pay, you could just buy the volume control itself with a newly manufactured one:
http://www.verntisdale.com/Seeburgpage.htm -and put it into the shell -they are the same. This is the route I would suggest, used pots may be defective anyway.A shielded cord of whatever length will be needed too.

Rob.