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ami-man wrote:Hello Takis,

I am glad to see that you have a solution to your problem, If you also use that other wallbox make sure you have a relay on the transformer for controlling the AC control line.

Regards
Alan

Alan Hood
ami-man
UK

that should be 1 amp right?
thanks again

straycat_gr wrote:Hello Alan and Rob for your replies, well here is my feedback...

Alan yes you were right, the sound is coming from the motor and not the credit coils!
And so I replaced the transformer, which seemed to solve the problem (till now). I did another

modification by adding a switch to my walbox power, so its not turned on if I dont want it with my

jukebox. I have left it up to 4 hours till now with no fuse blowing out... I think its solved, or maybe

because of the cold weather we have these days the transformer does not get too much heated....

well we'll soon find out

That is definitely one for the "Rare Bird File". I have 91-92 Seeburg 200's and another 21 Rowe WRA-B-C all on location and in 29 years of operating, I've never had a wallbox transformer fail in any mode.

That one is really "out there".

Rob/NYC

Rob-NYC wrote:

straycat_gr wrote:Hello Alan and Rob for your replies, well here is my feedback...

Alan yes you were right, the sound is coming from the motor and not the credit coils!
And so I replaced the transformer, which seemed to solve the problem (till now). I did another

modification by adding a switch to my walbox power, so its not turned on if I dont want it with my

jukebox. I have left it up to 4 hours till now with no fuse blowing out... I think its solved, or maybe

because of the cold weather we have these days the transformer does not get too much heated....

well we'll soon find out

That is definitely one for the "Rare Bird File". I have 91-92 Seeburg 200's and another 21 Rowe WRA-B-C all on location and in 29 years of operating, I've never had a wallbox transformer fail in any mode.

That one is really "out there".

Rob/NYC

I am still not absolutely sure it is that since I still haven't operated it much, but usually after 3-4 hours it was blown with the wind Hopefully I will find out in the weekend when it will be lighted almost all day long! And by the way this wq200 was out of order for a long time till I got it in my hands... It was really a big mess and very dirty (if that counts in any matter).

CAn anybody please tell me what the rectifier and the capacitors are for in the wallbox? are they for the lights??? Cause in a new one I purchased they seem to be missing, although the wq200 seems to operate fine without them... A bit confused here!

thanks
TAkis

Takis, I don't have a schematic for the later WQ series that the rect is in, but on the WRA-on the there are a number of diodes instead of one rectifier.

The coin coils are DC.
The credit cancel coil is DC.
There is an odd filter-diode circuit that puts halfwave DC on the motor to slow it during the credit step-up .
The motor control and "bonus" relays are DC operated.

At the time when I had the WQ boxes I simply replaced the caps, washed them and after playing around with them for a while, traded them for more Seeburg 200's. Their pulse train is not compatible with the Seeburg so I couldn't use them.

In all pre-digital wallboxes that I have seen the transformer only powers the lights. I don't understand how it could cause the motor to hum, but it could certainly blow the main (28VAC in) fuse.

Rob/NYC