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Rowe r87 lighting

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:13 am
by ds100h
I have a Rowe R87 that plays correctly and all lights are working.

I have a question about the lightinhg, are the flashing lights supposed to pulse to the beat of the music?

Thank you for any info you have on the R87.

Best
Darrell

Re: Rowe r87 lighting

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:52 pm
by Ron Rich
Hi Darrell,
On some model Rowe/AMi's they used a "lite controller" that has an "option switch" on it--if set to "flashing" they should flash--I don't know what was installed in which model, nor can I tell from here, which one "someone" may have installed in yours---some do not "flash to the music", just "strobe"--. Ron Rich

Re: Rowe r87 lighting

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:31 pm
by ds100h
Hi Ron

My unit has these settings: "OFF", "FLASH", "ON", and "CONTINUOUS ON". My lights do flash.

Since there is no setting for "PULSE" this unit will not flash to the beat of the music :(

Also, thanks for this tidbit: "it showed that "data lines "B" and "C" were used for the # 8. I know that B & C are used for the number 5 ?? After looking at the chart, my brilliant mind said--that's been wrong, all these years ?? Yep--it's wrong--"8" uses data lines "A" and "B"--"

It seems to me that when we working on our USC1 that Mark discovered this error, but thought that someone had simply miswired the unit!


Best
Darrell

Re: Rowe r87 lighting

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 1:52 am
by Ron Rich
Hi Darrell,
Is the unit plugged into the Amp?
Ron Rich

Re: Rowe r87 lighting

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:21 pm
by ds100h
Afternoon Ron

If you are asking if the "Lamp Control" unit is plugged into the amp, the answer is yes it is. That connection is why I asked if the lights were supposed to pulse to the beat of the music. I see no other reason for the "Light Contol" unit to be plugged into the amp???

Best
Darrell

Re: Rowe r87 lighting

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:07 pm
by Ron Rich
Hi Darrell,
I think--not sure--that SOME jukeboxes, would change the pattern of the twinkle lamps if playing music--others "flash to the beat"--Sounds like the controller on yours has "gone bad"--
Ron Rich

Re: Rowe r87 lighting

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 3:19 am
by ds100h
Ron

I agree the controler must be bad. There has to be some reason they attached that lamp controler to the amp.

Well, at least all the lights do flash.

Best
Darrell

Re: Rowe r87 lighting

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 5:55 pm
by Ron Rich
Darrell,
Ifin you want it to flash--fizzit !--if not, DIS-connect it from the amp !
(Hint--clean the switch first !)
Ron Rich

Re: Rowe r87 lighting

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 6:48 pm
by ami-man
Hello Darrel,

What is the part number on the sound to light controller?

It should flash on sound to light on the ON setting, there should be a cable going to the auxillary input/output and you will have to adjust the flash rate when you get in working on sound to light.

Regards
Alan

Alan Hood
ami-man
UK

Re: Rowe r87 lighting

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:14 pm
by Ken Layton
I've found those light control units to suffer from numerous bad solder joints at the connectors and at the slide switch.

Re: Rowe r87 lighting

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:26 pm
by Ron Rich
Guy's,
A LOT of "Rowe's problems" are also caused by the "low quality" pins used in the A-MP plugs--"reforming" is a must, on most-- Ron Rich

Re: Rowe r87 lighting

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:30 pm
by ds100h
Thanks alot for all the great ideas.

The part # is 4-07501-02 the settings are:

Off
Flash
On
Continuous
On

When I move the switch between the bottom "On" and "Continuous" the sound varies. On the bottom "On" the lights stay on.

On the top "On" position the lights randomly flash

I am at a loss as to which "On" the lights should "Pulsate" to the beat of the music, unless instead of randomy flashing in the top position they should "Pulsate" when music is playing and only randomy flash whne no music is playing.

I think the solder joints is a good place to start.

Best
Darrell

Re: Rowe r87 lighting

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 12:24 am
by Ron Rich
Darrell,
The sound varies ?? There should be NO difference in sound, whatsoever, caused by the lights ?
If that's happening, I would strongly advise you to remove the lamp connector from the amp, as it WILL cause internal problems in the amp !!
Ron Rich

Re: Rowe r87 lighting

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 12:34 am
by ds100h
Hi Ron

Thanks for the heads up. If you know of a Rockola 1448 for sale in the midwest area PM me with the details.

Best
Darrell