Rowe Wallbox CD WB

Hello all got some questions hopefully you all would help answer.Tried some other source with no luck.

I have a Rowe 100C jukebox and I want to add a Rowe wallette(wallbox) CD WB to it, but have a few questions.

There is a company that sells them on Ebay used. They state that all I need to connect it to my jukebox is a 8 lead wire, true? What would the mutli leeads be for?

It appears that I would need a transformer to get them to work? Do these get placed into the jukebox and then power the wall unit thru the wiring?

Does anyone have the schematics for the connection?

Since the wall unit only has 50 selections and the jukebox has 100 what happens to the selection options? How does it work?

Any other advise? Thanks

It's been 20 years or so since I hooked one up--so, going from my great--but not too long memory--
Yes, the 8 wire plug is all you need to insert into the CCC--the transformer is a "low voltage-25 watt" unit that sits in the phono.
The wall box is able to display either 100 HALF size title strips or 50 full sized ones ( I think--just like the CD-RN model). The electronics are able to select all 100, all the time. I have no "paperwork" on it, but if you check, a Service Manual for the wallbox should be available --either directly from a Rowe Distrib, or re-printed by Victory Glass/AMR. Ron Rich

You could use 8 leads for: 1 pair for left channel, 1 pair for right channel, 1 pair for the signal "RoweLink', and 1 pair for voltage. I would put the transformer near the wallbox for a shorter distance.(lower voltage loss) The title pages are the only thing limiting you to 100 selections. Look at the pages, and you will see it. Like Ron said the bubbler used a double card and you re-number the pages.I will warn you to test your AC outlets and make sure they are properly wired and grounded. If not, you will trash both computers.(Use a common 3 light plug-in tester.) The schematic should be in the unit.

Hello all thanks for the advise/suggestions. So If I understand this correctly, the limitation is in the display of the cd pages but the unit will allow selection of all 100 cds?

My brother found some older transformeres from a defunked record playing jukebox in the diner. Were these stamdard volt/watt wise and if so could they be used on the newer model? What is the voltage I am looking for, 25watts? 28-30 watts?

Thank again Ike

Yes--on the limitation--probably on the transformer-"nominal 25 VOLTS" is what' needed. Ron Rich

Thanks Again!!!!!!! Ike

You need a 7-wire connection to this wallbox.

Wallbox terminal strip positions:

A.C. Power
Power Com
L CH
R CH
Audio Com
Rowelink A (ORN)
Rowelink A (ORN)
Rowelink B (WHT)
Rowelink B (WHT)

2 wires (18 AWG) for the wallbox AC power of 28-volts. You can use a Radio Shack
transformer for this, Part # 273-1512 or 273-1512B. Use an in-line fuse for safety.

3 wires (22 AWG) from the CD100 speaker output terminals to the wallbox speakers.
Use the E1 tap for Audio Com and the Left/Right E3 taps to the L CH and R CH.

2 wires (22 AWG) for the Rowelink communication. On the CD100, Rowelink connectors
are P10, P11 or P12. At the wallbox, 1 wire to a Rowelink A (ORN) terminal and other to
a Rowelink B (WHT) terminal.

The first wallbox ID is 70, all four dipswitches on the wallbox control board are down.

Ed Fischer

Ed,
Welcome to the forum !--warning to all you guy's---this guy is smart !--but he's also a "wise guy" --so watch out--this should be fun-as long as his wife doesn't catch him----Ron Rich

Hi Ron,
Thanks for your warm welcome.
I can see this is going to be fun !

Ed Fischer

Datasync, I replied to you on the "other" forum as well, absolutely exactly what I was looking for. Perfect info to make the connection easy.

Getting the wall box this weekend but the house is under construction so I will not be able to connect it for a few months.

Thanks for the transformer lead, the person selling me the waalbox wanted alot of $$ for one, so I figured I would find one on my own for less, but was not sure where. Also my brother may have one from a old jukebox setup.

Just to clarify when you state :

A.C. Power
Power Com
L CH
R CH
Audio Com
Rowelink A (ORN)
Rowelink A (ORN)
Rowelink B (WHT)
Rowelink B (WHT)

Are ther two RowelinkA & B, or is this a double stike?

And when you state:

"The first wallbox ID is 70, all four dipswitches on the wallbox control board are down.", where /when do you enter the wallbox's ID?

Thanka again Ike

Ike,

No, not a double strike

The 2 sets are for daisy-chaining to additional wallboxes as shown below:

Rowelink A (ORN) <- From CD100 jukebox or previous wallbox
Rowelink A (ORN) <- to next wallbox
Rowelink B (WHT) <- From CD100 jukebox or previous wallbox
Rowelink B (WHT) <- to next wallbox

Inside the wallbox door, is the control board. It has a 4 position set of ID switches. All must be switched down.

Ed Fischer

Got it thanks for the clarification. Again greatly appreciate you sharing your expertise!!! Happy Thanksgiving to you and all!!!!Ike

Wow, I found people that can be of great help. I got a Rowe wall box. I want to only get the light to work at this time. I have a lot of wires coming out of the back. They are twisted together in these colors, yellow, orange,brown,red, green and blue. Then there are two larger gauges, white and black. I just ordered a key to get into it. The tag on back is really worn off, only showing 50 in the AMPS box. I will order the conversion kit to work this from a I-pod but at a later date. Can you please tell me what transformer I need? Which wires would I hook up to make the lights work for now. Thank you so much for your time. ~ joey