Southern Roses. Cameo record played on my Paillard.

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Southern Roses. Cameo record played on my Paillard.

by Phonoboy » Fri Sep 04, 2015 11:44 pm

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Re: Southern Roses. Cameo record played on my Paillard.

by Joe_DS » Sun Sep 06, 2015 5:02 am

Sounds very good. (Would like to hear what your Paillard sounds like playing an electrically recorded record, though.)

One thing I forgot to mention in my other post: for whatever reason--at least with my Paillard sound box--less of the needle is exposed when it is inserted all the way into the opening of the needle-bar than is the case with most other sound boxes such as Victor, Columbia, etc. (In other words, the needle is seated farther up in the hole and is clamped closer to its tip.) This shortens the distance between the needle's tip and the needle-bar pivot, essentially throwing the lever action off-balance, leading to blasting and distortion on some records. For this reason, when I use a loud tone needle I don't insert it all the way into the hole.

Many years ago, a former acquaintance sent me some packages of NOS extra-long Victor "medium tone" needles. They were about the same thickness as a loud tone needle, but about 1/3 longer. These worked beautifully, but they are hard to come by.

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Re: Southern Roses. Cameo record played on my Paillard.

by Phonoboy » Mon Sep 07, 2015 5:04 am

I have noticed the needle issue, and try to keep it in mind. I'll upload an electric when I decide one is suitable.
I've read later electrics from the 30s onward would be damaged.
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Re: Southern Roses. Cameo record played on my Paillard.

by Joe_DS » Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:43 pm

Normally, when I play any record on my Paillard, I use (conventional length) medium tone needles, but as with loud tone needles, I don't insert them all the way into the shaft.

For later electrical recordings, I've found it depends on the record. Victors, Columbias, Brunswicks, Deccas and other major brands do okay, if they are in very good condition, to start with. From what I can tell, this particular model hit the market in the mid-1930s, so it should be okay to play records from around that time. Keep in mind that the early 1930s electrical pickups were about as heavy as the acoustic sound boxes. Records from the late 1930s, onward--when lighter weight electrical pickups were common--normally don't stand up as well on acoustic models, but again, there are some exceptions.

Joe

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