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Old "talking book" record players

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:52 pm
by Radiotvnut
Anyone have/collect old "talking book" phonographs? These were the type of record player that was issued to blind or visually impaired individuals in order to play talking book records. These record players were either loaned by the Library of Congress or could be purchased through organizations such as the American Foundation for the Blind or the American Printing House for the Blind. The earliest models from the '30's played @ 33 1/3 rpm. By the late '50's, the speed of 16 2/3 rpm was added. By the mid '60's, three speed machines with the speed of 8 1/3 rpm were produced. The first records were on 12" disc, later records were 10", and the last round of talking book records were on 9" 8 1/3 rpm flexible disc. I'm legally blind myself and use talking books + I have a strong interest in vintage electronics is the reason I collect these old players and "talking book" records.

Herei's my oldest machine, an American Foundation for the Blind model 20 wind-up model from around '34-'35. This unit has a spring driven motor; but, the electronic phono cartridge was designed to drive a pair of headphones. It plays at 24 and 33 RPM and I have never seen a 24 rpm record. As you can see, someone replaced the tonearm with one from a cheap '50's/'60's era kiddie phonograph. I wish I knew what the original tonearm looked like.
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Here's a slightly newer fully electric American Foundation for the Blind model U-14. This one plays at 33 and 78 rpm. I'm guessing it's from the late '30's.
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Here's the model I use the most. A circa '65 model AE-3 that plays @ 8, 16, and 33 rpm. This is a tube type unit and was made until sometime in '68, when the plastic solid state models were introduced. IMHO, this is the model they should have stuck with. They sound better and are much better built than the plastic junkers of the '70's and later.
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Model AC-50 American Foundation for the Blind model that I assume is from 1950. This is a tube unit that plays @ 33 and 78 rpm.
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This is one of the last talking book record players from the '90's, the model A-1. This is an all plastic solid state model that plays 8, 16, and 33. Also has a variable pitch control and a special tonearm that does not lift. Instead, it is pressed down, moved towards the record, and when the tonearm contacts a small guide, the tonearm is released and the needle drops into playing position. This player is very weak and tinny sounding in comparison to the '60's tube type units. These players were used up until the end of 2000, when the Library of Congress discontinued the last magazines on flexible disc. Beginning in '01, all books and magazines were issued on 4-track, 15/16 IPS cassettes. Now, the cassette format is obsolete in favor of digital cartridges.
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I also have a modified (by AFB) Philco 48-1201 "Bing Crosby" record-in-slot phonograph that plays 33 rpm talking books and regular 78 rpm records. It also has a headphone jack, a tonearm cuing device, and a device to allow the user to place the tonearm anywhere on the record. The standard 78 rpm consumer model didn't have this features. And, I have a model "C" talking book player from '55 that has a flip back top with a front mounted oval speaker grille. This one was built by DeWald and plays 33 rpm only. I will have to take a picture of these two models.

I don't own any of the older solid state plastic models, except for the one '90's model pictured. Actually, the only solid state model that I might like to find is the model AE-5. This one was in a two tone blue plastic case and was the first solid state model issued by the Library of Congress. I've also heard that some older talking book players had a built in AM radio, I've not seen any of these models, except for the '48 Philco "Bing Crosby" model.

EDIT: I found a picture of the '55 model "C" built by DeWald.

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Re: Old "talking book" record players

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:29 am
by Thom
Nice collection. Very nice. I remember my Grandpa having one of these when I was a kid. He had tunnel vision rather bad. I have one though only one authentic Assoc for the Blind record to play on it. Thanks for sharing.

Re: Old "talking book" record players

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:39 am
by Radiotvnut
Thom wrote:Nice collection. Very nice. I remember my Grandpa having one of these when I was a kid. He had tunnel vision rather bad. I have one though only one authentic Assoc for the Blind record to play on it. Thanks for sharing.


Was his player one of those late '50's / '60's era gray wooden cased models? The early versions from the late '50's and early '60's played 2 speeds. The 3 speed units came out in '65. And, many of the older two speed units were converted to 3 speed. Their physical appearance didn't change much from the late '50's until the first solid state model came out in '68. The '70's plastic models mostly looked alike, except for different case colors to distinguish the model year.

Re: Old "talking book" record players

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:03 pm
by Thom
It was definetly not plastic but paper covered wood. Rather heavy duty looking. I believe it was grey in color.

Re: Old "talking book" record players

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:15 pm
by Record-changer
They also mad an adaptor that fit on top of a 33 rpm turntable. It had ball bearings acting like planetary gears that reduced the speed of the second turntable on top to 8 rpm. A post pressed against the overarm support or the arm shaft to stop part of the assembly from turning to cause the speed reduction.