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Seeburg LS1 safety plunger spring uncompressed length and number of plays meter question

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:41 pm
by e093116
Hello,

I am working on resurrecting an LS1 that I picked up last week for $50. It sat for at least 10 years without operating according to the previous owner. I've gotten it to work/play nicely, but sometimes the safety plunger hangs, it just doesn't move fast enough all of the time. This spring is mangled and stretched out for whatever reason, it likes to "bind up on itself" when compressed, and I'd like to replace it. Does anyone know the uncompressed length of this spring?

I'm planning on ordering a few different sizes from Grainger, I can guess/get close at the necessary length, but thought I'd ask before ordering just to see if anyone has a recommendation.

On a different note, this LS1 machine shows, 51,000+ plays on the meter. Is this a high number? The other machines I have both show less than 25,000, but maybe this is because the meter has rolled over, much like old mechanical 5 place car odometers? Any comments on what a "high number of plays" is for jukeboxes in general?

Thank you.

Bill

Re: Seeburg LS1 safety plunger spring uncompressed length and number of plays meter question

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:53 pm
by Ron Rich
Hi Bill,
In the 50 or so years i have worked on Seeburgs, I never saw a mangled safety lever spring ? Which one are you talking about--the one wrapped around the plunger, or the outboard one that counter-pulls it ?
If I needed one I would contact one of the "used parts sellers" listed above, rather then trying to match it !
As for your meter question--yep, roll over is considerable--till the meter dies-- can't believe them unless a paper record was kept !
Ron Rich

Re: Seeburg LS1 safety plunger spring uncompressed length and number of plays meter question

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 11:30 pm
by e093116
Ron,

Thanks for the feedback. It's the light gauge one wrapped around the plunger.

I've noticed a few bent/broken things throughout the machine that I've since corrected, I'm guessing this spring fell victim to some rough handling in the past...

Regards,

Bill

Re: Seeburg LS1 safety plunger spring uncompressed length and number of plays meter question

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 11:38 pm
by Ron Rich
Hi Bill,
I would need to assume, that your guess, was correct! I would say 99.98 % of the mech problems I have seen over the years were related to human (?) intervention-- :( Ron Rich