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1953 seeburg hf100g

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:20 am
by bullet
Hello everybody!! i was wondering if any one had any ideals as to what would cause this noise
i figured it would be easier to show you guys instead of trying to explain it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBk28yf6u_Y
amp has been recapped and has new tubes

Re: 1953 seeburg hf100g

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:57 pm
by Ron Rich
A poor audio ground, or audio ground "mixed up" with the system ground, or a poor system ground--in other words--probably a
"grounding problem" --also can be amp related--you don't say which amp is in it--- Ron Rich

Re: 1953 seeburg hf100g

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:36 pm
by bullet
the amp is a MRA4-L6
i might add that it doesn't always do it
everything else works fine just that loud noise and the beginning of record play

Re: 1953 seeburg hf100g

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:00 pm
by ami-man
Hello,

I guess the problem must be in the mute circuit, have you checked or cleaned the mute relay contacts?
No doubt Ron will tell me I am barking up the wrong tree!

Regards
Alan Hood
ami-man
UK

Re: 1953 seeburg hf100g

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:20 pm
by Ron Rich
Alan,
Rugh, rugh---no relay in that model--input is simply "EARTHED" ! ( part of the "grounding" circuit)
Ron Rich

Re: 1953 seeburg hf100g

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:27 pm
by Ron Rich
Try cleaning the ring portion of both the input plug and socket--tighten the ring if loose, Clean ALL the pins on the two mech plugs/sockets going to the mechanism--be sure the ground screw is tight on the mechanism. And clean the plug/sockets for both the speakers, and VC. You should also clean the pins/socket for the 5879 tube--and you might want to replace that tube, if cleaning does not stop it--and if the AVC tubes are installed, try cleaning pins/sockets there too-- Ron Rich

Re: 1953 seeburg hf100g

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:20 am
by bullet
well i checked the ground on the mech it was tight but i cleaned it anyways
but on the one mech plug in harness it was wrapped with electrical tape so i up wrapped it to find the wires twist together
i tugged on the ground and it just pulled apart and i said to myself "there it is" :D
so i soldered and heat shrinked all the wires and crossed my fingers and fired it up......only to hear that awful noise :cry:
so i tried a 5879 tube same thing :cry:
but i did find out if you turn the avc knob to off it doesn't make the noise???

Re: 1953 seeburg hf100g

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:19 am
by Ron Rich
Un plug the input wire, and play a few selections--does it still do it ? Ron Rich

Re: 1953 seeburg hf100g

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:14 am
by bullet
with the input unplugged and the avc on yes it makes the noise
with the input unplugged and the avc off no noise

Re: 1953 seeburg hf100g

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:30 pm
by Ron Rich
Then it's something within the amp--such as a "noisy" tube, cap or resistor--that will need to be detected and replaced.
You can try tubes first--one at a time--as that's the easiest to "fix"-- Ron Rich

Re: 1953 seeburg hf100g

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:49 am
by bullet
just an update......it turned out to be the 6sk7 tube i had to order one and just got it in today
plugged it in and no more noise :D
thanks ron for your time.....

Re: 1953 seeburg hf100g

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:40 am
by Ron Rich
Glad you got it--Thanks for posting the "cure"-- Ron Rich