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My instructions merely stated "a good flashlight battery" so I used a brand new "AA" battery I started the mech at the parked position by KO.

I will redo with a brand new D cell battery and start by selecting B-2. While playing B-2, charge the Tormat with a KNOWN GOOD, D cell. After doing that, reject the selections all the way through the "A" section, and let me know what happens-- and then let you know the results.

Also, can you advise which if any amps can be used in place of a TSA1 amp without losing any functional properties of the TSA1?

Thank you very much

I now have completed the procedure you said:
"start by selecting B-2. While playing B-2, charge the Tormat with a KNOWN GOOD, D cell. After doing that, reject the selections all the way through the "A" section"

Results are every selection from B-2 through all A positions, including A-6 which had not played before and is presently continuing in sequence of B selections as I type this reply. Will await your further advisement,

OK--Now you have me confused--s there a "TSA-1" amp installed in that phono ?
If it played A-6 with the D cell, that would indicate a poor connection in the large (Cinch-Jones, brand) plugs, that mate at the RCSU, or TJU, whichever is installed in your phono.
Just re-seating them will usually correct this problem--- Ron Rich

Sorry about confusion. No"TSA-1" amp installed in my phono. I told a friend how knowledegable you are and he asked me to pose that question to you regarding his LPC1 amp compatability, which you have answered under another thread.

"If it played A-6 with the D cell, that would indicate a poor connection in the large (Cinch-Jones, brand) plugs, that mate at the RCSU, or TJU, whichever is installed in your phono.
Just re-seating them will usually correct this problem--- Ron RichRon Rich "

The key word is "usually", things in my world are not resolved that easily.

I have unplugged and plugged Cinch Jones plugs J551 and J552 as shown on page 45 and 47 of Manual.
The same problem exists. An inspection of the prongs indicate many prongs have what looks to be a buildup of gray oxidation on them. Would it be advisable to clean them up somewhat with fine emery cloth or do you have some other idea where I should go from here?

Ron,

There is no question you are the man! While I was awaiting yor reply I have unplugged and plugged Cinch Jones plugs J551 and J552 in a couple more times. I noticed one particular prong gad a greenish coating on the back side of the prong. I carfully used a fine emery cloth and very gently scraped the suface with the tip os a scre driver, making sure I did not scratch the surface of the prong but still removing the green coating. As of this writing the A-6, C-6, E-6, G-6 and J-6 are all functioning as intended by selecting the key and number switches.

Once again, thank you very much for information that is not found in the manuals and can only come from someone that has worked with Juke Boxes for years and enjoyed the work he was doing. This Board is very fortunate to have your wisdom available. Hope you had a great weekend!

Glad to help--glad you found it ! ( Hint--purchase some DeOxIT--spray female contacts -- work plugs in-out several times--best "cleaner" I know of for that purpose) Ron Rich

I took your advise and bought a can of DeOxIT and sprayed on female contacts and worked plugs in-out several times . It played fine for several days and now A-6, C-6, E-6, G-6 and J-6 will all play if any one of them is selected and likewise with A-9, C-9, E-9, G-9 and J-9! I also denoted that if a record is playing when one of the above key combinations is selected, the playing record is immediately rejected and it moves on to the next selcetion.

Possible solutions:

1. Continue cleaning and spraying Cinch Jones plugs J551 and J552 and working plugs in-out several more times until the problem goes away?

If one fails go to two

2. Use procedure on page 351 of Manual identified as Procedure Chart 19DS involving a test lamp, performing tests A thru G until problem is found?

(Procedure Chart 19DS is for a situation where it plays an entire letter or number group of records each time certain buttons are operated.) In my case this is not technically correct as it plays every other letter or number group, skipping over B-6, D-6, F-6, H-6 and K-6 and likewise with B-9, -D-9, F-9, H-9 and K-9.

Do you have any other suggestions Ron?

Thank you
Darrell

---Since you are only having problems with those few selections, I would still assume it to be a "plug" problem--
Ron Rich

As usual, you were correct. I kept cleaning the plugs and working them in and out and the problem was resolved.

Darrell

I just placed a TASU1 in my Seeburg DS160. It plays all the 45's without fail. When I place a 33 1/3 record in the machine the carriage will scan to it the location of the 33 1/3, transfer the record out of and back into the magazine without playing the record and then scam to the next postion. Why would this only occur with 33 and 1/3 records?

Thank you
Darrell

Pulled 2050 tube out and the 33 1/3 played just fine. Now I need to determine if it lacks 30 volts DC from selenium rectifier or if it is due to a defective Trip 2050 bias electronics or 2050 or 12X47 is defective. Any ideas?

Problem has been resolved It was a bad 2050 tube. I am glad I had more than one on hand. Ear speakers working just fine. Have a good night.

Berry interesting ?? I assume that your 33TASU-1 unit still has the "auto-fail-auto trip" circuit ( it was eliminated late, during the production run--and never installed in the -2's). Perhaps a weak 2050 was the reason the circuit was eliminated ? Ron Rich

Kind of neat listening to records ar 33 1/3, even if all I have are childrens stories, great grandchildren should enjoy this!

I just got a WOM 3W1 to go with my Seeburg DS100 . I have the WOM wired to the receiver. The WOM makes a noise like it is operating correctly, but, the Juke Box does not make a sound like it is receiving a signal from the WOM and nothing happens? Unfortunately, the Manual does not have a trouble shooting guide. Any ideas on what to look for? And yes there is a 2050 tube installed and is lit up, so I hope it is a good one.

Thanks
Darrell

How many 2050 tubes are in that unit ? Ron Rich