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Rock-Ola LED Display Issue

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 9:22 pm
by Las Vegas Jukebox
I have a Rock-Ola 490 and the LED Display has segments which don't light-up (on all 8 digits). Is this likely to be a fault with the digit units themselves, or could the fault be elsewhere?

I am guessing the digits themselves are faulty, but don't know how to test them, or where to get replacements?

Any help would be appreciated.

Re: Rock-Ola LED Display Issue

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 10:35 pm
by Ron Rich
Keith,
Got Service Manual---schematic ?
This should tell you, what voltage the LED's use, the "common" pin and which pin for which segments.
If one is not lighting, compare it to a lit segment--no power ? It's a bad driver. Power, it's a bad LED.
LED cases are usually marked with a name, and or, at least a number. If needed, take that to your local "Radio Shack" and axk questions--they say, (or at least, used too) they "have answers"( :lol: :roll: ) Ron Rich

Re: Rock-Ola LED Display Issue

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 1:54 am
by Las Vegas Jukebox
Thanks Ron,

You are quite right (as usual), the digits are marked, MAN6780, which I found on-line.

From the voltages at the pins (as per the schematic) I would have to say that the LEDs are faulty. When an LED is not lit, when it should be, the voltage is like 8v !!! - Only supposed to be 2v. One digit that isn't working at all is reading 12v.

Voltage is definitely there, but going very high when an LED isn't working.

Re: Rock-Ola LED Display Issue

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 2:08 am
by Ron Rich
Keith,
Glad you found it--let us know the outcome, when you get the new LED's.
Ron Rich

Re: Rock-Ola LED Display Issue

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 12:56 am
by Las Vegas Jukebox
Ron,

Got the new LED digits today and installed them. Everything is great now, except for one which is not lighting at all. I knew about this fault before, but I wanted to get the new LEDs in before looking at it. I know the fault isn't on the PCB where the LEDs are mounted and I know the ribbon cable is okay, which means it must be somewhere on the "back" board of the System 2 Control Unit.

I will have to have another look at the schematic, but now I am unsure what to look for. Any ideas?

Re: Rock-Ola LED Display Issue

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 5:38 pm
by Ron Rich
Keith,
Is the failure in one "enclosure", or just one of the segments in one enclosure ?
Ron Rich

Re: Rock-Ola LED Display Issue

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 10:04 pm
by Las Vegas Jukebox
Ron, it was a full enclosure, but I found the culprit. The ULN 2803A IC is faulty - ordering a new one today.

Re: Rock-Ola LED Display Issue

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 11:33 pm
by Ron Rich
Keith,
Cool--glad you found it--driver chip ??
Ron Rich

Re: Rock-Ola LED Display Issue

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 1:15 am
by Las Vegas Jukebox
Yes, the driver chip... and just thinking about our conversation in the "Wanted" forum, regarding the cost of a Rock-Ola Reject Button, this 18-leg IC cost .93 cent, and that wasn't from a "cheap" place.