rockola grand salon 468 jukebox advice please

my 474 has this switch and it (sometimes) stops the mechanism when the dome (lid) is opened.

I also have a Rockola 474 which should have this switch fitted, It is missing.
What it does is to force the machine back into the Operate position when the dome cover is lowered.

The times I have left mine in the OFF position after scanning (changing records), I wish the switch was fitted, One day I will get round to it.

The reason the machine would stop when the lid is lifted, is because the OPER - OFF - SCAN switch has been left in the OFF position.
Kind of lazy really, But useful.

Pete

A-Ha! Now that makes sense. This combines with the scan switch to do the same thing that the re-shaped, re-positioned scan switch on the 490- and up does: push the switch to ON when you shut the dome.

Thanks Patrick - still learning - loads of questions ....my jukebox has a Number and model Plate on the back ...is it possible to find out what year it was made by the number ? and also is there a Rockola site to tell you where the jukebox was delivered to from the factory ??
Just curious to know which Bar /Club / Pub my jukebox went to first ....
cheers
allan

g0pkh wrote:

my 474 has this switch and it (sometimes) stops the mechanism when the dome (lid) is opened.

I also have a Rockola 474 which should have this switch fitted, It is missing.
What it does is to force the machine back into the Operate position when the dome cover is lowered.

The times I have left mine in the OFF position after scanning (changing records), I wish the switch was fitted, One day I will get round to it.

The reason the machine would stop when the lid is lifted, is because the OPER - OFF - SCAN switch has been left in the OFF position.
Kind of lazy really, But useful.

Pete

Aha - thanks Peter - explained that perfectly - and yes - I have closed the lid when Scanner is on off position - couldn`t fathom out why when I opened the lid everything stopped ....so now I know ...great stuff this ...learning a lot on this site ...thanks again
allan

No Riley - didn`t know any of those sites ...thanks very much ....record tags is great , cheers
allan

Thanks - good tip - a couple of spaces ...I made that mistake the first card I put in that I wrote myself ....
I have sent that site to a mate - and he is delighted with it - I will let him know to put a couple of spaces in as well
cheers
allan

Hello Allan,

It may be quite difficult to find out the history of your jukebox which dates from 1977, it is estimated that there were about 3250 - 3700 made of this model.

This style of jukeboxes at the time were mostly used in lounges rather than in tap rooms.

I would check over the jukebox for any stickers or marks that relate to any operators and if you find any do a search on Google for the history of the operator. A lot, infact the vast majority of jukebox operators were bought out by the larger operators in the 80's & 90's.

I worked for Dransfields in the 70's they had operational bases in Leeds, Sheffield, Hull, Birmingham, Newcastle and I think they had a branch in Liverpool but can not be certain Dranfields music section was called Selective Music . Other large operators at the time were Associated Leisure, Bass Leisure/Toby Sound, Hazel Grove Music, Stretton Leisure, Mam-Inn-Play, Music Hire Group to name but a few based in the midlands and Yorkshire.

A small operator still trading in the Liverpool area is Casey Automatics.

Best of luck with your research.

Regards
Alan

Alan Hood
ami-man
UK

Thanks Alan ...I had to got to Middlesborough for the Jukebox ...actually Billingham - so maybe the Newcastle area for the Jukebox looks more likely ....I will have a good look for a sticker tomorrow ...I will have to roll up the carpet to move it and get around the back ....fingers crossed...
cheers
allan

Hi All,
I have no idea of RockOla's policies in the UK, but I understand what they did in the US.
Un-like the other phono makers, RockOla had a policy of selling directly to anyone who came in with "cash in hand". Anyone could purchase 1 to 9 phonographs at the "retail" level, 10 or more would make you a "distributor". I doubt any kind of records were kept at the factory of who purchased what--as one was required to purchase in groups of 10 to retain distributor pricing.
All other makers assigned distributors exclusive areas in which they could re-sale the equipment. RockOla did not "assign" anyone, so any "johnny come lately" could sell anywhere--this became a problem, when parts and or "factory (warranty?) service" was required, as none of the sellers wanted to run a real distributorship, and about half the time, were "no longer a distributor".
In 1979, after Seeburg was closed, I, and another person investigated being the RO distributor, for this area. We both had experience, and the money, to open a "first class distributorship" stocking parts, and having a proper service dept. They would not grant us "exclusive" area rights of any kind, so we abandoned the idea--there were about ten other "RockOla Distributors" in the area we wanted--none that had any parts stock, or even qualified repair techs.
In that light--I'm sure RockOla had no idea, records, or cared, where any one phonograph went--once they had the money in hand. Ron Rich