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Re: Help Me Indentify This

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:36 pm
by shedradios
Hi Larrykid,
You indicate you "googled all the info I could find on it and found nothing." Well that may be what we need to help you. Provide that info. One does not typically find references/documentation data on the millions of electronic items manufactured. Some data may be embeded in a site. Also, the absence of info on a set even by brand and model number just means there's no interest. Do as Bobby says and provide as much as you can. You record changer looks very much like a V-M, and hopefully not a BSR. Once you get the model number of your set then it's much easier to determine the needle for your record changer. Tho you could check the cartridge for part numbers. But so the radio works ok? Why not provide a shot of the console.
Bill

Re: Help Me Indentify This

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:40 pm
by Joe_DS
harrykid wrote:Wow I cant believe theres a way to buy a needle link right of above this --

You need info to find the needle you dont just magically know what need by guessing -- !!!!!!!!



The first thing to do is remove the stylus bar. This looks to be the flip over type for playing both LPs/45s and 78s. Move the lever so it faces straight downward, and then pull it slightly down and forward, and it should slip out of the tiny clip holding it at its base.

You can then compare the stylus bar with those illustrated on the needle doctor site, included in the "Where to Buy a Needle" post above. Here's that site's page for Montgomery Wards Airline record player needles. -- http://www.needledoctor.com/Online-Stor ... ent-Stylus

It should be listed there, but if not, look at the charts on this page -- http://www.everythingradio.com/needle_charts.htm

HTH,
Joe_DS

Re: Help Me Indentify This

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:16 pm
by Record-changer
The changer is an Admiral made in the late 1950s or early 1960s.

Re: Help Me Indentify This

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:31 am
by Bobby Basham
Okay, I'm waiting for the dryer to finish up, and have nothing else right now. Yeah, all the answers are in the FAQ, but some folks don't bother to check there before...I'll leave that alone.

Cartridge: There may be a black clip in the front that you pull forward and the cartridge will just pop out without removing the metal mounting bracket. There should be numbers on the back (the needle may be labeled, too.).
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Several numbers may be on there as in the example below.
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This is an ElectroVoice 275 which crosses to a Magnavox 560345. The 802 is some type of "in-house" number. This cartridge is also similar to an Astatic 165D and you can use several needles.
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Ya wanna know how hold that thing is? Take off that back panel and see what you can find. This is an amp from October, 1965. I don't know about the number above the "chassis" label, but this is one of those A575-02-?? amps in the Astro-Sonic 100's...50 watts MUSIC power/channel. Check your receiver/amp chassis for numbers and you will find a repair manual out there.
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I can't remember who mentioned the "ghost" manufacturers out there, but I'm glad they did. So many different models out there with their customized face plates, but they were using the same guts underneath. It also applies to "Stencil" pianos. Yamaha/Kawai/Baldwin did that. Those old Blonde upright pianos that we used in schools back in the 60's were labeled "Hamilton", but made by Baldwin.

Who knows, that Wards Airline could be using the same radio/amp chassis as Philharmonic and a dozen of other companies who threw these pieces togethers.

While you're under there, look for any stickers on the underside of the turntable to find any info.
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Just treat every internal component as a separate entity and you'll be fine. The "Model" number won't reveal what's under the hood. --BB

Bobby Basham
Tucson, Arizona