Seeburg LS3 -> Receiver?

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Seeburg LS3 -> Receiver?

by Rob_Feature » Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:06 am

So I've got my Seeburg LS3 and it's been up and running well since Ron Rich helped me months back (thanks Ron, think of you every time I plug in a number!)

The amp on it needs work, but honestly, I don't really want to dive into that right now. I've got so many other projects I just want to listen to it. The juke sounds 'fine' as it is now...but not great. Sitting only 2 feet away is a vintage Pioneer receiver with a speaker setup that DOES sound great.

So my question is this: How can I feed the juke through the receiver? All the work I've done on it so far is with getting the mech to work right, so I'm not totally sure what signal levels are fed to the amp.

Obviously my receiver can take either a line level or a photo level signal input...I don't suppose that's something easy to tap into from the juke's output?

Any suggestions would be awesome. Thanks much!
-Bob [Walled Lk, MI]
total and complete noob with a seeburg ls 325


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Re: Seeburg LS3 -> Receiver?

by Rob-NYC » Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:25 am

Rob, the usual-best way is to connect to the high side of the volume control for external amps with their own volume and tone controls. For amps that are just boosters, use the arm of the volume control so that all volume-tone and AGC settings will track with the juke control.

The complication here is that since the amp has not been serviced, you will still have whatever shortcomings are imposed by deterioration in the preamp and agc stages.

Is is possible to connect the pickup directly to the receiver's magnetic input, however you'll have a lot of clicks and thumps due to the lack of muting during scan-handling.

I suggest trying the volume control tap and see how it sounds. But also make a priority of an amp rebuild ASAP.

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Re: Seeburg LS3 -> Receiver?

by Rob_Feature » Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:17 pm

Thanks Rob...As I thought thru this initially I thought "audio signal is audio signal...I should be able to just grab the signal before it gets to the amp and run it thru the receiver". But your comment about "all the pops and clicks" is exactly what I didn't factor in. Theres alot of noise that the amp is getting rid of for me and a receiver won't.

That right there is really valuable info that makes me want to just rebuild the amp. (does rebuilding generally just mean a recap, or is there alot more to it than that?)
-Bob [Walled Lk, MI]
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Re: Seeburg LS3 -> Receiver?

by Rob-NYC » Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:07 pm

In those amps replacing the caps is the main event.

However (knew that was coming -right?) there are a few pitfalls to watch out for.

On those later amps the bias pots are on the driver boards and they must be cleaned as well along with the edge connectors that are on the boards. If there is any break in connection either in the pots or the edge connectors, it will take out the output transistors. I suggest placing a 15 or 25 watt bulb in-series with the amp when you first power it up after rebuilding. If the bulb glows bright for a second than dims to near nothing, tap the chassis and if all remains calm you are go-to-go.

I usually eliminate the bias pot and place a 100-120 ohm resistor in it's place.

The main thing is to clean ALL the sliding edge and feed-through contacts.

Vern Tisdale probably sells a cap kit for that amp.

Rob
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