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Hi People, It's about My V200. Both the Juke Box & Wall Box were just working fine for approx.1-hr.. Then both failed to make any selection. After several attempts today, I shut it down . Preston , Syracuse NY.

Preston, the first thing is to determine where the failure has taken place. Whether it is Write-in or Read-out. If the machine fails to play from either keyboard or stepper, it can be either.

First, try the battery test. If the machine trips when the Toroids are flipped by the battery, the problem is in the Write-in circuits.

If this machine is still using 2D21 tubes check those first, they are the common failure points.

Rob/NYC

Hi Rob, Thanks for the information, I'll let you know how it works out. The juke box does operate with four of those tubes. Preston, Syracuse NY..

Preston,
If it does NOT pick records using the battery trick, swap the "read-out" tube with any of the others, and see if that makes the batt trick work--if so, the tube you swapped is bad-- Ron Rich

Ron, it sounds like that machine is converted to TSR3.

So Preston, here are the W-I and R-O simplifieds;

http://s1192.photobucket.com/user/Rob-N ... ort=2&o=58

http://s1192.photobucket.com/user/Rob-N ... ort=2&o=59

As Ron suggests, try a known good tube, in this case a 2050, try a 12AX7 too.

BTW: What was rebuilt here?

Rob

Hi Rob,
I would take "--four of those tubes---" to mean 4-2D21's ?? (WI,RO, Stepper, Trip) ??
Ron Rich

Ron Rich wrote:Hi Rob,
I would take "--four of those tubes---" to mean 4-2D21's ?? (WI,RO, Stepper, Trip) ??
Ron Rich

Yep, you are right. For some boneheaded reason input-ed a "not" into his description.

I never understood why Seeburg went so far overboard with thyratrons in that model. It was so simple and obvious that direct switching would be easier and more reliable.

FWIW: The old boilers in both my grade school (1953) and my apt house used 2D21s in the Fireye controller. they seemed reliable. When I got my first V, the super gave me some of those tubes for it.

Rob

Hi Rob,
Your "bonehead reason" is called a "senior moment"--in polite company !
Welcome to my world !!
Ron Rich

Hi Rob & Ron, It's ok Rob, you can come to Syracuse NY and work on my juke boxes anytime, & oh yes, so can you Ron. I wish I had your talents, but I have to rely on a Tech Guy. I'll let you know how it works out. Thanks for all your time, Preston, Syracuse NY..

Hi Rob & Ron, Just to let you know, I replaced all four 2d21 tubes and the V200 is running ok at this time. Thanks for your help. Preston, Syracuse NY..

H Preston,
Glad you got it as I do not EVER want to go back to Syracuse--last time I was there in 1969, I got VERY ill, and wound up in the hospital--
Ron Rich