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3.2A fuse for Ami K200 Alternatives

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:07 am
by ransome
I have a K200 AMI and the transformer schematic calls for 3.2a fuse .Installed is a 15a buss tron fuse that is working But I am wondering if this is dangerous to use it.
Having trouble tracking down the correct 3.2a fuse , any alternatives?

thanks Gregg

Re: 3.2A fuse for Ami K200 Alternatives

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:30 am
by Rob-NYC
That fuse is only for the wallbox supply. 15Amp is way too much. I replace those old fuse holders with a standard AG types as used elsewhere and 4 amp/slo for my locations. If you have only one wallbox, use a 3 amp/slo.

Rob-NYC

Re: 3.2A fuse for Ami K200 Alternatives

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:35 am
by ransome
Rob-NYC wrote:That fuse is only for the wallbox supply. 15Amp is way too much. I replace those old fuse holders with a standard AG types as used elsewhere and 4 amp/slo for my locations. If you have only one wallbox, use a 3 amp/slo.

Rob-NYC


Here is a pic , the machine wont select a record if this is not inserted , Does anyone know where to find the 3.2a version?

thanks Gregg

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Re: 3.2A fuse for Ami K200 Alternatives

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:27 am
by ransome
Nevermind I found one on Needles4jukeboxes.com

thanks anyway

Re: 3.2A fuse for Ami K200 Alternatives

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:50 pm
by Ron Rich
Hey Rob,
IMHO, a 4 amp is too high ( it's also illegal !), in that position. A 3.2 is the highest allowed by the national code, and by UL. I use a 1 amp fuse if only one WB is attached. The ONLY reason a fuse bows in that circuit is a short--which rarely happens within a wall-box. Ron Rich

Re: 3.2A fuse for Ami K200 Alternatives

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:13 pm
by Rob-NYC
Gregg, sorry about the mistake, I saw "K" and immediately thought Seeburg -which does use Fusetrons in some older supply's.

Ron, blown fuses happen in each location at least once year.
Causes (remember, these are 200's)
-Jammed up coins that fall onto the coin switch supply lug as I remove the rejector.
-A-holes that actually force coins into the space between the bottom of the title page support and cover casting and which then work their way into the keyboard causing the same effect as below:
-A small piece of copper spring metal that breaks off the keyboard assembly and works it's way into a position where it bridges the "singles -EP" terminals in the keyboard itself and thus causes a direct short at the credit cancel point. This needn't be the case, but Seeburg made the wiring excessively complicated. It took me hours to finally track down this cause, but at least I don't have to swap out boxes any more when it happens. I disconnect them, unmount and shake upside down & sideways till something falls out.

-Backed up coins that jam the coin switch and burn out the coin coil. The coils are quite rugged, but I have has two that shorted. Lately I have been adding fuses in each box.

-Cancel-override contacts on the lower cam that weld together and produce a dead short. Again, a stupid Seeburg design. There is no good reason for this setup.

I don't know how you can use a 1 amp fuse on boxes where each draws 2-½ sending (3Wa's) and spikes at 3 amp during credit cancel. On -one 3W1- with no lights and a delay fuse -maybe.

You have better luck with fuses than I do :-)

Rob