Rowe R86 plays records one number higher 122=123

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Rowe R86 plays records one number higher 122=123

by ransome » Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:21 am

Rowe R86 is playing selections one higher than chosen example selecting 110 plays 111 instead. Sometimes it will play correctly ,but most of the time not. Is there a adjustment for this issue. Also I would like to lube the mech ,what points are necessary.

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Re: Rowe R86 plays records one number higher 122=123

by Ron Rich » Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:50 am

Gregg,
If the basket is evenly loaded, and it does this all around, the opto adjustment is wrong. You also could have a dirty/worn "sprague" set-up. See the service manual for adjustment procedures.
The service manual may say that the mech "needs no lubrication"( some add "for 5 years")--IMHO, they lied ! The Turntable motor, Gripper motor and basket motor have oil felts on all armature sides that must be filled with 20 wt. ND oil, at least once a year, according to the motor makers. The turntable shaft and the tone arm shaft also should get the same oil.
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Re: Rowe R86 plays records one number higher 122=123

by ransome » Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:47 am

Ron Rich wrote:Gregg,
If the basket is evenly loaded, and it does this all around, the opto adjustment is wrong. You also could have a dirty/worn "sprague" set-up. See the service manual for adjustment procedures.
The service manual may say that the mech "needs no lubrication"( some add "for 5 years")--IMHO, they lied ! The Turntable motor, Gripper motor and basket motor have oil felts on all armature sides that must be filled with 20 wt. ND oil, at least once a year, according to the motor makers. The turntable shaft and the tone arm shaft also should get the same oil.
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Thanks for the tip , I read the manual and learned how to adjust the optical switch.Seems to work fine now
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Re: Rowe R86 plays records one number higher 122=123

by Ron Rich » Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:52 pm

Ain't that amazzing !! READING the "Manual" helped !!!
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Re: Rowe R86 plays records one number higher 122=123

by Rob-NYC » Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:59 pm

I had a similar problem on one of the R-90- R91s I bought new. It turned out that there was a blob of some sort of synthetic grease partially obscuring one tooth of the magazine gear. Since the gears are 'counter" the computer seemed to lose a slot. I would have thought that a missed pulse would generate an error.

These machines were right off the showroom floor, so someone at the factory must have gotten sloppy.

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Re: Rowe R86 plays records one number higher 122=123

by Ron Rich » Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:13 pm

Hi Rob,
On the early Rowe/Ami CD100's, I have seen enough oil on the gear teeth to "mess up the count" ( "Oil" also will be on the CD's themselves--messing those up too). Sometime during the production run, they added a "oil shield" to the gripper motor to prevent this--
Anything blocking the light for the opto will mess this up, without any computer error showing, as the computer merely "waits" for each pulse--no timing involved between pulses-- Ron Rich

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