Seeburg Magnastar Model SB-100 (Year 1975)

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Seeburg Magnastar Model SB-100 (Year 1975)

by ds100h » Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:43 pm

I have been through the manual a few times and can not find any information about setting this model to free play. There is a credit switch where you may obtain however many plays the credit coils are set for.

Is there anyway to set this model to free play?

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Re: Seeburg Magnastar Model SB-100 (Year 1975)

by Ron Rich » Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:56 am

Hi Darrell,
Jukeboxes were NOT designed to play for free--they were designed to MAKE money--therefore, there is no "easy way" of putting it on "free play" ! Which model pricing unit is installed in that phono ? Ron Rich
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Re: Seeburg Magnastar Model SB-100 (Year 1975)

by ds100h » Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:44 am

Hi Ron

I knew they are not designed for free okay, but, there is a free play unit for older models and the USC1 Bandshell was easy to set to free play. As you may know, they do not mark the pricing unit that I can see, other than what I think is a part #35 128.

The manual states is has a "Single Pricing Unit .... Type SPU5-56 (Adds 1 thru 6, Sub I) (10-455420), or SPU5-X** (Adds 1 thru 6, Sub I), or SPU5-Y** (Adds 1 thru 6, Sub I, 2 x Feature), depending on pricing requirements. ** Varies with country."

How would I determine which unit it is when it is not marked?

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Re: Seeburg Magnastar Model SB-100 (Year 1975)

by Ron Rich » Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:59 am

Darrell,
It's a SPU-5 (of one version , or the other) . It was marked with a "sticker" (on the cover, next to the meter, if I recall correctly ) when new--and if you follow the book, you can tell by the way it's set up as to which version it is. If I remember correctly, it is possible to make up an electronic free play adapter for that model.
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Re: Seeburg Magnastar Model SB-100 (Year 1975)

by ds100h » Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:12 am

Ron

The only sticker is on the front between the two connectors and it has the numbers 60 125.

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Re: Seeburg Magnastar Model SB-100 (Year 1975)

by Ron Rich » Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:23 pm

Hi Darrell,
Well, what can I say ?? "they used bad glue" ???
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Re: Seeburg Magnastar Model SB-100 (Year 1975)

by vaguy2222 » Wed Oct 02, 2013 4:53 pm

It is not a good idea to make the box permanant free play since the latch bar solenoid would be energized all the time. I wire a simple push button switch to the coin switch of the quarter. each time you press the button you would get 2 plays ( if the original pricing is still effective. I usually try to find a creative place to hide the switch in one case i hid a subminiature switch in the back of the coin return cup. If what I described to you is not 100% clear have a tech do it for you. Or just use the juke as a 300 pound piggy bank.


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Re: Seeburg Magnastar Model SB-100 (Year 1975)

by Ron Rich » Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:48 pm

Vaguy,
Your suggestion has one MAJOR drawback--
If a "kid" decides to "play the jukebox", he, or she, is likely to push the added free play button and walk away from the phono, leaving the credits on--thus burning up the solenoid--seen this happen WAY too many times !! IMHO, even "adults" who have been told NOT to do this, tend to do so :roll: ("Oh, s---t, I forgot !?")
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Re: Seeburg Magnastar Model SB-100 (Year 1975)

by MarkHitz » Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:17 am

I'm confused. Why can't you just remove the price board from the black box to make it free play?


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Re: Seeburg Magnastar Model SB-100 (Year 1975)

by Ron Rich » Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:34 pm

Mark,
Very simple--this model does not have a DTP-1 (black box) !
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Re: Seeburg Magnastar Model SB-100 (Year 1975)

by MarkHitz » Sun Oct 06, 2013 1:02 am

Thanks Ron - I'm such a noob sometimes. So in 1975 Seeburgs Magnastar still has a latch bar solenoid like my 1968 LS-2 Gem. What were they thinking?


Darrell - I can say from experience that you should not make it free play. The person before me made mine freeplay and it smoked the solenoid. Therefore - Yes you can screw with the pricing unit to make it free play but sooner or later the latch bar solenoid will fry out / burn up. A direct replacement solenoid is not easy to come by nor cheap.

If you need to have a free play juke - stick with a DTP black box model like your 1970 bandshell.

Drop quarters in the magnastar and leave the door off the cash box.


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Re: Seeburg Magnastar Model SB-100 (Year 1975)

by Ron Rich » Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:01 am

Mark,
Easy answer--again--
"They" were thinking--wow--we have tons of parts left over for 100 select models--let's not re-design it till we have used up all old parts ! (When they "ran out" of these parts, my late friend Tony Miller, was assigned the task of designing a new system-- which became the "red box" system, first used in the 100-77D model)
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