Phonoland

I have a ds 160 and a SC1 wallbox. Can I hook up the wallbox to this jukebox??
While browsing I noticed a few questions about drowned jukeboxes and some very good advice. As I have wound many motors and a few transformers may I suggest that the transformer cover be removed and cleaned. Place the transformer in an oven for several hours at 140 degrees. Normally we bake them at 250 to 300 degrees. In a 400 turn transformer putting out 400 volts you only have 1 volt difference per turn .
Ken

"I have a ds 160 and a SC1 wallbox. Can I hook up the wallbox to this jukebox??"

Not if you want it to play the correct records.

Ken, for reasons know only to the Seeburg Corp they totally inverted the pulse train when the Consolettes were introduced.

So, only the older system (3W1-V3WA- round front 160's) "A1" = 2 pulses followed by a pause, followed by 1= 1 pulse. In the Consolettes numbers were sent first --in inverse order. "A1" would be the maximum number of pulses and "V8" the fewest.

The reason why the first set of pulses always have one more pulse (A1 =2 pulses) is because Seeburg used a tube to power the stepper coils and had to limit the amount of current the tube was required to conduct. Since it was necessary to charge a holding magnet to keep the wheels in-place between pulses and during the transfer from letters to numbers, they placed the charging contacts on the stepper 'clappers". This required that the first pulse be "thrown away" to assure that the hold magnet and it's capacitor was fully charged. The "letter-number" transfer relay also pulled in during this first pulse.

You can modify the stepper but it will be a lot of work and it is best done if you have parts from a "universal" stepper. That is, the stepper contact wafers and taper pin leads.

You can read of someone's efforts to modify a Consolettes, and my response here:

http://dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/wurli ... ssage/2606

Personal opinion; get an old style 160 or 200 wallbox.

Rob/NYC

Thanks Rob. Sounds like I need more time than brains. Oh wait a sec. I do have
Ken

Ken,
I have done it several times in the past--seems that the biggest "pain" in doing so, is the wire length is too short, and you must compensate for this by either adding wire length, or replacing wires. I don't know if anyone has enough money to entice me to do it again---- Ron Rich