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Rowe AMF Money Meter?

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:21 pm
by foxtrotxray
So while scanning through the manual, I saw a reference to a 'MAF Money Meter'. Searching online gives one relevant result, but no pictures. Anyone have any additional info on these? Be curious to get more info on these! :)

Re: Rowe AMF Money Meter?

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:22 pm
by Rob-NYC
This is how they look:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/ROWE-TI-2-JUKEBO ... 1546851460

There was at least two in a box of "junk" that i took away from a shop on Tenth Ave as it closed. The cables had been cannibalized so I never did anything with them. They got traded with other stuff in 1993.

IIRC, Unlike Seeburg's version they did not produce a printout.

Rob

Re: Rowe AMF Money Meter?

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:55 pm
by foxtrotxray
Interesting. So it did read out the amount in a currency format, apparently according to the images.

Know why there was a lock on it? Doesn't look like it held any actual cash.

Thanks!
-Mike

Re: Rowe AMF Money Meter?

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:12 am
by Ron Rich
Rob, Mike,
This appears to be a copy of the Seeburg "Income Totalizer System (ITS). This was sold as an "anti-cheat" devise, and was locked with a key, to prevent cheating. The "owner" was supposed to keep the key, and not allow anyone else access to the meter--Seeburg's ITS did not produce a written form either, till they "invented" the "RITS", about 4 years later, and offered it as an option. With the LS-3 model, came the "DRITS"---Then with the SMC's, the MCU was wired for the"MRITS"--don't know if these ever were produced ?? Ron Rich

Re: Rowe AMF Money Meter?

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:17 am
by Oldetimejuker
One of the reasons to have a money meter (perhaps the main reason? ) was to safeguard against dishonest employees. If a route man had access to the cash AND the money meter, he could possibly adjust the meter to cover his tracks. I have been told that the keys for money meters were kept in the office safe. Ray

Re: Rowe AMF Money Meter?

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:33 am
by foxtrotxray
Thanks guys.
Interesting - I've owned pins and vids on location before, but never jukeboxes, so something like this would have never occured to me.(*)

I'm guessing these aren't as common a thing as, say a stepper, right? It honestly looks interesting enough where I may be interested in having one, just to mess with.

(*) - I had one tech/collections guy, and once a month I WOULD go out to a random location and check the reading on a game.. So I can definately see it's usefulness.

Re: Rowe AMF Money Meter?

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 4:57 am
by Ron Rich
Meters on Pins/vids are very "cheat-able"--these were designed not to be so easy to cheat -- but i have seen it done--
Ron Rich

Re: Rowe AMF Money Meter?

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:26 pm
by foxtrotxray
Ron Rich wrote:Meters on Pins/vids are very "cheat-able"--these were designed not to be so easy to cheat -- but i have seen it done--
Ron Rich

*Everything* is cheat-able in one way or another. :) The more I look at those ebay pics, the more I'm curious in getting one. I'm adding this to my wish-list.. :mrgreen:

Re: Rowe AMF Money Meter?

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:22 pm
by foxtrotxray
foxtrotxray wrote:
Ron Rich wrote:Meters on Pins/vids are very "cheat-able"--these were designed not to be so easy to cheat -- but i have seen it done--
Ron Rich

*Everything* is cheat-able in one way or another. :) The more I look at those ebay pics, the more I'm curious in getting one. I'm adding this to my wish-list.. :mrgreen:



Well I picked it up. The seller had some other parts I needed, and he stated that he'd sell me that linked money meter at a discount, so, I couldn't refuse. Got it yesterday, and while taking a break from working on the tone-arm issue, I plugged it in. Worked fine, and rather neat gizmo.

If anyone comes across a manual or papers for it, let me know. It's not counting $.05 properly, which my OCD needs to fix, even if I'm not using nickles at the moment. :mrgreen: I'll get a picture of it installed in the juke, once it's up.