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Rebuild V-M motor

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:16 pm
by wingnut049
Hi group - I have a V-M portable stereo. I believe the model number is 314. Anyway, I replaced the idler wheel and it still plays a bit slow. I'm figuring that the motor has to be removed and rebuilt. I can do it with very specific instructions and, if possible, pictures. Can anyone out there help me? Thanks, Jeff

Re: Rebuild V-M motor

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:38 pm
by Ron Rich
Wingnut,
I am not familiar with that motor--but just in general--look at the top bearing--if it's not
"egg shaped", I would use some 20 wt. ND oil on both ends, and see what happens--my bet would be it will "come up to speed"--
Also, a DROP of the same oil in the idler wheel shaft, can not hurt--IMHO. Ron Rich

Re: Rebuild V-M motor

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:43 pm
by wingnut049
Hi Ron - Thanks for the fast response. I'll check it out. Too bad your not near NC. I'd really like to meet you. Your advice here and on the Seeburg Info sight is invaluable. Jeff

Re: Rebuild V-M motor

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:02 pm
by MattTech
Removal of the end-bearings, noting the orientation of the main body of the motor is first.
(I draw an arrow on the motor body pointing to the stepped output shaft)
Also note the orientation of the spacers on the bolts, one end is beveled for a reason.
Correct re-assembly is a must, later on.

Each bearing assembly needs an overnight soaking in solvent, allowing thorough penetration of solvent into the
sintered bronze and felt oil retainer.
Also wipe the shaft with solvent.

Once cleaned, and dried off, the felts can be saturated with a good quality light oil, like turbine oil.
Some oil can be applied to the bronze bearings as well.

Then re-assembled, lightly tapping the side of the shaft to help center the bearings.

The stepped motor shaft should be clean and dry.
The idler shaft should be lightly oiled.
One fiber shaft washer should be on each side of the idler.
Then the "C" clip goes on.
Clean the turntable rim inside, and the idler rubber rim.

Of course, this is just a partial "repair", since it's best to clean and re-pack the turntable bearings, clean & re-grease the mechanism. and do speed tests with a stobe disk.

Re: Rebuild V-M motor

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:31 pm
by wingnut049
MattTech - I kind of understand what you're saying. Can you provide any pictures so I have a better idea of what I'm doing? I watched my friend, Joel Thorner, rebuild a motor for my Webster Chicago portable years ago but he was so fast that I blinked and missed most of it. Jeff

Re: Rebuild V-M motor

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:55 pm
by MattTech
wingnut049 wrote:MattTech - I kind of understand what you're saying. Can you provide any pictures so I have a better idea of what I'm doing? I watched my friend, Joel Thorner, rebuild a motor for my Webster Chicago portable years ago but he was so fast that I blinked and missed most of it. Jeff


Sorry, I don't have photos of this procedure, I'm a professional service tech who works on these things.
Usually I suggest to people not versed on these complex jobs to locate someone like me in their area to perform the service.
There's a right way and a wrong way to do things, and I prefer to err on the safer side. -M