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Seeburg G - 2 Questions

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:20 am
by ds100h
Hi All

There is a gasket that fits in the side channels of the dome glass. This gasket has turned into a mass of "tar" like substance. I know how to remove this easily from the side glass. If someone has an easy safe way to remove this substance from the channel on the dome glass I would appreciate your advice?

Problem # 2 involves the "selection playing light". The bulbs I know are good. If I move the light far enough back in the channel it rides in, the lights will work, but, they are dim and lined up with the wrong record selection. If I move the bulbs further forward where they would be lined up correctly they will not light? I see a copper slide contact similar to one in a flashlight. Is my assumption correct that this "copper slide contact" has to contact the bulb socket to provide the power for the light to light up? If that is correct, would I just need to bend the copper slide more towards the bulb socket until it does make solid contact?

Best
Darrell

Re: Seeburg G - 2 Questions

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 4:53 pm
by Ron Rich
Hi Darrell,
1. Dy-no-mite works well here ! If you prefer not to use it, you will need to ID something that will "emulsify", whatever someone has put in that channel-and "dig it out"--sorry, but that depends strictly on what "someone" has used--
2. On the lamps--The "holder" should be inserted all the way into the housing, following the "line" on the "plastic housing" If the lamps will light in that position, do not "adjust" the copper contact. RTFM, for alignment, L-R procedures, for the whole thing.
Ron Rich

Re: Seeburg G - 2 Questions

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:21 pm
by ds100h
Morning Ron

The Manual I have is the problem. On page 96 Trouble Shooting Guide it says to "Adjust contact springs for proper contact with lamp sockets. Items 3, 5, and 17. See page 2267 or 2293." and "Adjust slide contacts for proper contact with sleeve. Items 4, 7 and 48 - Page 2193 or 2241."

If I had pages 2267 or 2293 and 2193 or 2241 I would follow those instructions. The manual I have is missing those pages???

Best
Darrell

Re: Seeburg G - 2 Questions

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:36 am
by Ron Rich
Hi Darrell,
That's causeyouaninna gots no manual ! You have "manual made up of SELECTED pages from the "Master manual"--that covers all Seeburg 100's"--plus--
Try pages265/66/67 for some of it--if the lamps stay lit when the holder is in the correct position, you needent do nothin'--
If they don't--"adjustment" of the contact spring is necessary--Ron Rich

Re: Seeburg G - 2 Questions

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:57 am
by ds100h
Evening Ron

Apparently when putting the bulb holder back on the "contact spring" caught on the bulb socket and became straightened out. After bending the contact spring back into the proper configuration the lights are working just fine.

As to the Manual I have found out that the sellers all do it differently and very few use the Master or Original Manual. I have noticed that they only include the pages they think you need, not what was actually in the Master Manual. I guess they save a few pennies this way.

Best
Darrell

Re: Seeburg G - 2 Questions

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:46 am
by Ron Rich
Hi Darrell,
Part of the problem was that Seeburg never printed individual "Service Manuals"for the early 100 select models. Instead, the offered a subscription package, that "up-dated" a "Master Manual" at least every year. Sometime in the mid-50's, they "compiled" individual manuals for the previous models, and offered them for sale. All of the people have since just copied the complied manuals, and added errors of their own, plus the original errors--It's "Darn hard"to write a book without errors in it--least for me ! Ron Rich

Re: Seeburg G - 2 Questions

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:48 am
by Rob-NYC
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Wurlitzer seems to have done the same thing. Above is the cover of my old shop manual for W-1900-2250. In there Wurlitzer provided one each copy of schematics for amps, control center, etc. along with functional diagrams, descriptions and sequence drawings. If they were used in again in the following year or variants of a model (2200 vs 2250) it only shows the elements that had changed.

It makes sense and saves space.

Rob

Re: Seeburg G - 2 Questions

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:20 pm
by Ron Rich
Hi Rob,
I think WurliTzer only did it a few years--1700-1900 is all I have in my "master manual"--do you have any later info in yours ? Ron Rich

Re: Seeburg G - 2 Questions

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:48 am
by Rob-NYC
Ron, the binder I have goes up to 2250 and includes the 104-200 models. This includes 1900-2000-2104-2100-2150-2250-2204-2200-2250. In general, only the changes between models are shown -along with step-by-step operation and adjustment protocols.

Rob