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Seeburg Tube Identity?
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:55 pm
by ds100h
I have a Seeburg Tube I received with one of our Juke Boxes.
On the base of the tube it says “Made In USA For Seeburg” and “63-26”. On the glass it says “S342”. It has 8 pins. I believe this is a 2050 tube but I am not sure as the #2050s are nowhere on the tube!
Can anyone identify this tube for me?
Thank you
Darrell
Re: Seeburg Tube Identity?
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:06 am
by Ron Rich
Hi Darrell,
What you have is a "private label" tube. It just happens to have been labeled "Seeburg"--it could say anything else, including "rival" brand names. Usually they will say made in the USA for xxx company by RCA ( or GE, or whomever made it) The number is stamped on the glass, somewhere--however in this case, it has probably "rubbed off". SOMETIMES, if you carefully breath on the glass and 'fog it" a bit, the number will show up--other wise, unless you "know tubes", it's very hard to tell --Ron Rich
Re: Seeburg Tube Identity?
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:12 pm
by ds100h
Thanks Ron. I have attached a picture of the tube and feel that it is a 2050 that I was told was still working but was weak. I think I have kept it around in case another one gives out.
Darrell
Re: Seeburg Tube Identity?
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:48 pm
by Ron Rich
Darrell,
Shoot me a photo of the top of the tube--looks like a 2050---
Ron
Re: Seeburg Tube Identity?
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:12 am
by Rob-NYC
Darrell, that is a 2050. I've seen dozens of those w/Seeburg branding, Most were made by RCA.
Rob/NYC
Re: Seeburg Tube Identity?
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:20 pm
by ds100h
Thanks Rob.
Rich Rob seems sure, but, I have attached a picture of the top of the tube for you to see.
Thanks to all
Darrell
Re: Seeburg Tube Identity?
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:37 pm
by Ron Rich
Darrell,
I was sure too---but that's not what I wanted the pix for--my experience has shown me that tube has about 1/2 life left. I can judge this from the top of the tube, noting construction, and darkness of the glass-- Ron Rich
Re: Seeburg Tube Identity?
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:06 am
by ds100h
R&R
Thanks, I have the tube marked as 1/2 life 2050

Re: Seeburg Tube Identity?
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:31 am
by Rob-NYC
Ron no doubt has a calibrated eye and it's true that some blackening of the mica support at the top occurs as the tube ages, the only visual test that I have found reliable is to observe it under conduction.
Place it in a pre-LPC trip and observe the top center when the mech trips at end/reject of a record. A strong tube will glow deep violet, a weak one will be sky blue and those in between will sometimes sputter a bit.
These tubes in trip service are right up against their max ratings and most tube testers aren't capable of accurate tests.
I'm glad I don't have to deal with thyratrons anymore.
Rob
Re: Seeburg Tube Identity?
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:41 am
by ds100h
R&R
Thanks for all the help. One last question of 2050 tubes. I notice there are 2050 tubes and 2050A tubes. What is the signifgance of the "A" on the tubes and is one preferrable voer the other?
Darrell
Re: Seeburg Tube Identity?
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:51 pm
by Ron Rich
Darrell,
There are both "A" and "B" versions of the tube---just later "re-designs" --In the case of most tubes, they are interchangeable--However there are some cases, when it is not wise to use an older tube in a slot, calling for a newer version.
Ron Rich