PATHE' MODEL 60

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PATHE' MODEL 60

by CALUMETPHONO » Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:32 pm

Would anyone be familiar with the Pathe' Model 60, a tabletop machine? Any idea of year of manufacture?, How many made?, any ads or trade magazines with this model.

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by shane » Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:08 am

Hi. Are we talking American or french Pathe?


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PATHE 60

by CALUMETPHONO » Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:30 am

Yes this should be an American one, as the inside plate says Paris - New York. Would you know anything about this model?

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by STEVE » Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:18 pm

Hi there!

A photo might help. There are numerous Pathe table models, and I think some are translated from the French Pathe company to overseas distributors, others are changed / renumbered so it's difficult to say without knowing what it looks like?

As you can see below I was trying to find out about Pathe machines but nobody seems to know anything about them!? :?

Some 20's models can be converted into horn machines - so called "Jour Et Nuit" models. I reckon (by the lack of response) that most collectors realise the machine that they have is a pup which has been put together in recent years with repro hardware - hence, no-one will commit themselves to say whether anything is right or not or they are otherwise to embarrassed to admit that they own one!

Ebay.fr is FULL of these machines and everyone I've looked at bar none appears to be a "bitsa". I've seen sites on the web where collectors are proudly displaying their machines with text stating that these machines are incredibly rare and never caught on originally. I have discovered that they were available for at least 6 years and sold extremely well - go figure. There is a huge information gap where Pathe is concerned unlike the global knowledge which exists about say, Edison, Victor, Columbia or HMV.

If any French collectors do indeed KNOW what is correct and what is fake, they sure like to keep it to themselves! :lol: :lol:
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Pathe'

by CALUMETPHONO » Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:48 am

Thanks Steve! I totally agree, although the Pathe' machines, are somewhat rare in some ways, it seems like they are also common in general. I just never seem to see two machines that are alike on e-bay.

The one I have has a grille in front like most table tops. It also has the speed control with the pathe rooster on the speed control. When we get to the motor, its different, The motor is that generic "Motor of Quality", which pops up in so many generic off-brand machines. The reproducer and arm are the typical Pathe'. I have yet to have a collector admit to owning one of these.

Also, I tried writing the publisher of the book on Pathe' phonographs, and they said it is not in their book. I doubt I have a rare bird, but would be nice if there was more information dug up on the Pathe' brand.

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by STEVE » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:23 am

Book on Pathe phonographs?

Is there such a thing? Can you please give me details of the book / author as I would like to get my hands on a copy!

many thanks.

Can you please post a picture of your machine or email it to me?

Thanks again!

Steve
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Book on Pathe phonographs/records

by Joe_DS » Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:08 pm

STEVE wrote:Book on Pathe phonographs?

Is there such a thing? Can you please give me details of the book / author as I would like to get my hands on a copy!

many thanks.

Steve


Hi Steve:

I posted this last week, but apparently you didn't see it, since there was no acknowledgement. I deleted it today because the link I posted no longer worked.

In any event, the only book I know of covering Pathe phonographs concentrates on the US market. FYI, the title is:

Path

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by STEVE » Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:15 pm

[/quote]I posted this last week, but apparently you didn't see it, since there was no acknowledgement. I deleted it today because the link I posted no longer worked.

Thanks JoeDs. It seems I took my eye off the ball for a minute and missed something as usual! :)

Thanks for the title, I will "Google" it and let you know if I have any luck.

Regards

Steve
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by STEVE » Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:24 pm

Nothing I'm fraid!

Nothing found on Google and nothing under the authors' names either separately or together on http://www.amazon.com?

It was worth a try.
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Pathe Book

by Joe_DS » Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:35 pm

STEVE wrote:Nothing I'm fraid!

Nothing found on Google and nothing under the authors' names either separately or together on http://www.amazon.com?

It was worth a try.


Okay, now the link is working again.

http://www.mulhollandpress.com/Pathe.htm

HTH

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