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HELP seeburg m100c motor slowed to a stop
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:38 pm
by Burgerjoint55
It was too good to be true. I had the machine working perfect for 2 hours or so. I was listening when all of a sudden the motor slowed to a stop. I can feel the motor slowly turning with my help. There is 43.5 volts ac on all 3 terminals at the motor condenser. On c2 .1mfd by 600v i have 68.8 vac on on side of the capacitor and 44 vac on the other. I have a spare motor and tried it and the same slow turning. I do not have a condenser to try.
Help
Rob
Re: HELP seeburg m100c motor slowed to a stop
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:02 pm
by MattTech
A capacitor checker would confirm the condition of the cap(s).
Re: HELP seeburg m100c motor slowed to a stop
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:16 am
by Ron Rich
Sure sign of a bad cap-- Ron Rich
Re: HELP seeburg m100c motor slowed to a stop
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 2:24 am
by Burgerjoint55
Which one?..and can I use a motor condenser from a seeburg Apollo?
Re: HELP seeburg m100c motor slowed to a stop
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 2:59 am
by MattTech
Burgerjoint55 wrote:Which one?..and can I use a motor condenser from a seeburg Apollo?
The volts-uf value should be stamped on the cap.
Ya gotta use the same value.
Re: HELP seeburg m100c motor slowed to a stop
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 3:02 am
by Burgerjoint55
What I mean is a .75-1.65 instead of the 1.0-1.4 motor comdensor
Re: HELP seeburg m100c motor slowed to a stop
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 5:14 pm
by Ron Rich
Yep--no problem to interchange them on those two models--IF Bodine brand motors are installed on both.
If the motor is of another brand, that does NOT have a top oil cup, did you "saturate" the top felt pad with the proper oil ?
(those wit dual oil cups should have also been filled with oil, and on all of them the whole "drive train" can be (although rarely) dry enough to stall the motor !) Ron Rich
Re: HELP seeburg m100c motor slowed to a stop
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 5:52 am
by Burgerjoint55
I have an emerson motor with no top cup. Looking from the outside into the shaft of the motor there is a clamp followed by a rubber dampener that is seated around a metal cup that has a hole in it (close to the shaft). Is that the oil galley that you are speaking of where the wick is located?
By the way i installed the .75-1.65 cap and the mechanism had some trouble reversing at the end of the rack. So I babied and was able to play records for my Christmas party. I ordered the 1-1.4-on its way.
Hope all had a nice Christmas,
God Bless,
Bob
Re: HELP seeburg m100c motor slowed to a stop
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 6:47 pm
by Ron Rich
Hi Bob,
Yezzir ! That thar "hole" is IT !!
The different cap had no bearing on the reverse function-- is the small cap still attached to the motor lead terminals ? If so, eliminate it totally ! Ron Rich
Re: HELP seeburg m100c motor slowed to a stop
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 4:06 am
by Burgerjoint55
yes I actually replaced that .1@600v cap. I will eliminate it now. Thanks Rich. You the man!
Re: HELP seeburg m100c motor slowed to a stop
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 5:53 pm
by Ron Rich
Since you are having "reversing problems", before you eliminate that cap, check the reversing switch very carefully. Quite often, the "stops" (that look like an inverted "V") have been bent way out of spec. When this happens, there is too much "over-travel" of the contacts. The stops must be re-formed (OK--"bent"), EVENLY, to prevent this, and the contact adjustment must be checked to assure that at no time, can any set of contacts "make", while the "other side" is still "made". And of course the reversing switch paddle "triggers", must be set correctly--also, the "rubber bumpers", MUST be in place ( Hint: add an "E ring" ("Sir-clip", for those of you who are "across the pond"), to hold them in place.
Ron Rich
P.S.--Once the reversing switch and associated parts are correctly adjusted, no further "adjusting" should ever be needed !