Restoration issue

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Restoration issue

by Ragtime Man » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:38 am

What would have been the original cabinet surface finish product on a Victrola VV-300 - ? I'm guessing a shellac...
and, is it possible to locate some of the original finish product,
lastly - if so, where?
No reason I can't do the job,
but I'd like to do it with the original product!
"Thanks"


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Re: Restoration issue

by Joe_DS » Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:15 am

There were a variety of finishes used on Victrolas, but shellac was the most common, and based on what I've seen, it's the type of finish applied to both the mahogany and walnut VV-300 models -- http://www.victor-victrola.com/300.htm

Also see --

Victrola Wood Finish Directory -- http://www.victor-victrola.com/Wood%20F ... ectory.htm

Restoration tips here -- http://www.victor-victrola.com/RESTORAT ... ain%29.htm

The type of shellac originally used was the "flaked" variety, as opposed to powered. It used to be sold by the Antique Phonograph Supply Company, along with other authentic refinishing supplies, but it's listed as "not available" on their site -- http://www.antiquephono.com/cabinet.htm I see it's sold by other companies, though, for instance -- http://www.shellac.net/ShellacPricing.html

When applying a shellac finish, it's important to use multiple, thin layers. Many restorers I've known would often apply about three or four coats, buffing the surface smooth in between. For the final surface polishing, rotten-stone works very well.

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Re: Restoration issue

by Ron Rich » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:53 pm

Hi Joe,
Not that I am ever going to re-finish anything (other then my meal)--but I am curious ?
What is "rotten-stone" ?
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Re: Restoration issue

by Ragtime Man » Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:58 pm

JoeDS - a million thanks for your invaluable info...
It will be a while before this project is undertaken,
but I hope to post a few photo's after it is complete!


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Re: Restoration issue

by ami-man » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:56 pm

Hi Joe,

Like Ron I am intrigued about the "rotten stone" I have been know to do the odd bit of woodwork and polishing but it is not a term I know of.

Regards
Alan

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Re: Restoration issue

by Joe_DS » Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:15 pm

Rotten-Stone (Aka Rottenstone) --Basically, it's decomposed limestone, used for the final polishing of fine finishes. (Often, it's the last step in French Polishing a cabinet.) The end result is a glass-like surface.

See -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotten_stone

It's available from a number of sellers, for instance --

http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/rottenstone1lb.aspx
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=2184

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Re: Restoration issue

by Ron Rich » Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:53 pm

Thanks Joe--clear as mud now ! Ron Rich

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