Seeburg USC-1 Musical Bandshell

Great boxes Mark. They look really cool side-by-side.

I have the original sales brochures (in pdf) for these two boxes, I can send them to you if you don't have them.

Also, did you know the retail prices when new were:

USC-1: Price (August, 1970) USD $1725
USC-2: Price (August, 1971) USD $1695

Mark,
The video's should be helpful--however, I spotted a couple of serious errors--
Number 1. The "bolts" you show are definitely NOT the correct ones used to tie down the carriage. They are much too small.
All models from the V-200 on thru the STD-4 use a 4 and 1/2 inch, 1/4-20, "welded thumb screw assembly". Earlier "pinbank" models used a shorter thumb screw assembly.
The four (three on pinbank models) 9/16 hex nuts should NEVER be "tightened down", unless 1/4 inch shims are placed between the frame and the slides--tightening them all the way down deforms them---
Photo's of the correct tie down parts, and instructions are in my "Seeburg Mechanism Guide".
In the section were you show removal of the program lid (title strip glass), you show the "release clips" but you do so with the lid partly raised. These should never be "unlocked" with the lid raised--it should remain flat, and then the lid should just be "pulled out--"Damage" will occur if lid is "lifted"
In the 2nd video, you say that all one needs to do is remove the mech pins, and the unit will slide out--Not true on some models ( USC's being one of the models), if it has the adjustable "snubber bracket". If so equipped, it should have two "bass reflex" screws ( which look surprising like the two screws you ID'ed as "tie down screws"). down in the suspension, which need to be removed first--see I& O manual for your model).Ron Rich

Thanks Ron. I need to find my 4 and a half inch long bolts and retake this video incorporating the changes you indicate. Any idea where I can see a picture of those shims and exactly where they go?

Mark,
My "Seeburg Mechanism Guide" has photo's of all of that--does not "show where they go", but does explain it--
Ron Rich

Just a quick update.

I am still in negotiations for the USC1. However, I have just picked up a NSM Galaxy 200 with the usual err.60. I have the manual for it, but if I get stuck I will start a new thread.

Well, the purchase of this Musical Bandshell didn't materialize, but I would like to thank Ron and Mark for all the information in this thread, as it helped me enormously when I purchased two other jukeboxes.

I have only been registered with this forum for a very short time, but the help and level of expertise I have encountered has been phenomenal.

THANK YOU!

Ron Rich wrote:Guy's,
As for bolting the mech down for shipment, the "Installation and Operation Guide" covers the proper procedure. It requires that you have the two special "tie down" bolts, and some 1/4 inch shims. If you do not have the bolts, I strongly recommend the mechanism be removed, or at minimum,the 4 shipping nuts be run all the way to the top ("Play" position), and the phono kept in a level position at all times--
Ron Rich

I found the above searching for information on this jukebox, along with links to very helpful videos. Since all I know is Rock Ola, I had no idea what these machines looked like inside. I am considering buying one but I would have to lay it down to transport it home. Assuming I would have limited time onsite to mess with something I''m not familiar with, what's the best way to do this? Will tightening down the four suspension nuts do, or those four plus the two screws through the coin door (don't know if I'll have access to the coin box); or is removing the entire mech as easy as that video makes it look? Bear in mind that it has to lay down. I'll appreciate any advice.

Patrick

Guy's,
I have installed and repaired "thousands" of those bill acceptors--They, like all bill, and credit card readers, and anything electro/mechanical-- need regular servicing. IMHO, that was the state of the art type, in it's day, and they kept on improving it over the many years it was made. However--time catches up with all things {including me !}, and that company has not produced that type in many years--as far as I know, "service parts" have all gone missing now--I have SOME small parts left, but probably don't have the one someone would need--Ron Rich

If you cannot access the coin door then you cannot get to the underside holes to bolt down the carriage. Tightening down the 4 nuts with the springs will not keep the Mech carriage safe if you set the juke on it's back. If you lay the jukebox on it's back and not bolt down the carriage then you will cause damage because the carriage is just sitting there. You can remove the whole mech slide out the front and then you can lay the juke on it's back. Keep this removed 100 pound mech upright. Removing this mech will also make it much easier to move. Take videos / pics of anything you unplug so you can get it back together.

Guys,
To expand on Mark's post--"tightening down" the four (or 3, on earlier base frames) nuts, withOUT shimming first, over-compresses the springs, thus rendering them either less, or totally, ineffective. Ron Rich