Nsm ES 160 Festival Transistor heat-sink insolation or ground?

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Nsm ES 160 Festival Transistor heat-sink insolation or ground?

by NSMES160Jukebox » Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:45 pm

Hi Folks,

I'm progressing the repair of my DOA Jukebox, She powers up now and displays "ERROR C", (believe this is related to coin board, probably only dirty IR LEDs)... Very happy to have got this far...

My question is, what Transistors are Grounded to the Heat-shield? Or are all the transistors isolated from grounded heat-sink (by the clear plastic things that sit between the thermal paste and the back of the transistors called 'Mica Sheet Insulators')

Guy I rescued this from had the plug wired arese ways and this main board removed...
happy it's operating :)
any advice appreciated..
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Re: Nsm ES 160 Festival Transistor heat-sink insolation or ground?

by Ron Rich » Sat Mar 12, 2016 12:53 am

" Mica's" when used are insulators--some transistors are grounded at the mounting tab, others are not. White, or (IMHO) better yet clear, silicone is an insulator/and is used as a heat dispenser. Ron Rich

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Re: Nsm ES 160 Festival Transistor heat-sink insolation or ground?

by MattTech » Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:48 am

Ron Rich wrote:" Mica's" when used are insulators--some transistors are grounded at the mounting tab, others are not. White, or (IMHO) better yet clear, silicone is an insulator/and is used as a heat dispenser. Ron Rich


And of course you know that insulated shoulder washers are needed as well, right Ronnie baby? :wink: :wink:
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Re: Nsm ES 160 Festival Transistor heat-sink insolation or ground?

by Ron Rich » Sat Mar 12, 2016 5:37 am

Hi Mattie,
Yep--that or, nylon screws & nutz !! :D Ron Rich

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Re: Nsm ES 160 Festival Transistor heat-sink insolation or ground?

by MattTech » Sat Mar 12, 2016 7:24 am

Ron Rich wrote:Hi Mattie,
Yep--that or, nylon screws & nutz !! :D Ron Rich


Personally, I never use those nylon binders, they're crap. - heat tends to make them lose "grip" or "stretch".
I always metal fasteners, and lockwashers, and even if the collector of one transistor is at ground potential, I always use a mica insulator anyway, slathered on both sides with heat sink "grease".
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Re: Nsm ES 160 Festival Transistor heat-sink insolation or ground?

by NSMES160Jukebox » Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:40 am

Now... In answer to my own question :D

The both 'middle' pairs of transistors screwed vertically and horizontally to the heat-sink don't require Mica Sheet Insulators
only Heat sink compound is needed... However if unsure, a safe bet is to put Mica Sheet Insulators on all...
See Pic as reference....
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