Rock-Ola 443

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Re: Rock-Ola 443

by DoghouseRiley » Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:21 pm

At the risk of being accused of "bangin' on..."

I decided to have a go at renovating the graphic on this jukebox, because "it was getting to me."

As you can see it looked a total mess.

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The original idea was to use some acrylic paint.
Bad idea! It was impossible to lose the brush strokes and as the fading was on both sides in different places, I couldn’t get an even coverage to allow a uniform light effect, so I gave up after attempting just one colour.

So I decided to apply a bit of modern technology.
I worked out the size of each aperture using Excel on my computer.

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Then I printed off the various colours on slightly stiffer paper than normal, as close as MS office would allow.

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Using some clear plastic to stiffen the back, the result wasn’t too bad. I repainted the white backboard which was very dingy.

Of course it isn't perfect, but it will do until I can replace it with something nearer the original.


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Re: Rock-Ola 443

by DoghouseRiley » Sat May 01, 2010 3:09 pm

I've decided to have another go at this graphic. I've ordered some 180 micron A4 acetate sheets in; red, yellow, green, sky blue and blue.
My thinking is that as 180 micron is quite thin, to get a bolder colour I can "double up" on the solid colours and use two different colours one on top of the other to get the shading required. It might work or it might not, either way it'd cost me less than a fiver including the postage to try .

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Re: Rock-Ola 443

by ami-man » Tue May 04, 2010 10:41 am

Hello Bob,

Why do you not use theatrical gel, there is up to 100 plus shades available. If the thickness is a problem then sandwich between two sheets of clear or frosted acetate. You should get the colour you require, Strand do a colour sample book the size is about the same size as title strips or slightly larger.

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Re: Rock-Ola 443

by DoghouseRiley » Tue May 04, 2010 2:14 pm

Hi Alan,
That's what I intend to do using the coloured acetate A4 sheets.

Working left to right, the correct way and not as I have it now, I'll start with;

Double yellow,
Green & yellow,
Double green,
Green & pale blue,
Green & blue,
Blue & pale blue,
Double blue,
Blue & red,
Red & pale blue
Double red.

This way I hope to get a colour balance across the ten "windows" with the five colours I've ordered.


That's the theory anyway. Ill post some pictures if it works out OK.


Digressing I'm looking for a remote control for this model, if anyone has one they don't need.


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Re: Rock-Ola 443

by DoghouseRiley » Thu May 06, 2010 6:40 pm

Hmm...

I tried the acetate, but had to put the tissue paper between the sheets as it was too transparent, even with double thickness. My logical grouping of the colours to get a gradual change from left to right should have worked, but they didn't.

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I'll take Alan's advice and try to get hold of some frosted acetate A4 sheets in the correct colours, rather than "mix and match."

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Re: Rock-Ola 443

by ami-man » Fri May 07, 2010 12:04 pm

Hello Bob,

The theatrical gel can come in sheets up to around 4ft x 2ft, I use these backstage in combinations if needed to get the correct effect I need. The frost may be your best bet to obscure the lighting behind.

A number of jukebox manufacturers used a white sheet of acetate behind the front and side effect panels.

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Re: Rock-Ola 443

by DoghouseRiley » Thu May 13, 2010 4:57 pm

I managed to get hold of a darker blue and particularly a pink as I couldn't find a combination with what I had to get a mauve colour.
A4 coloured acetates seem hard to obtain in small quantities...like one or two! But eBay came through.
It ain't perfect, but to use a technical term... "It'll do."
It's cost me about £10 altogether and the colours are a bit better than my camera shows them to be.
So I'm leaving it alone now.


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Re: Rock-Ola 443

by ami-man » Fri May 14, 2010 11:33 am

Hello Bob,

From your photo it looks good to me, a lot better than your earlier attempts.
The trouble with any hobby, craft or passion until we get them right we keep re-inventing the wheel.

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Re: Rock-Ola 443

by DoghouseRiley » Fri May 14, 2010 3:41 pm

Thanks for that Alan. I'm going to stop "messing" with it now.

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