magnavox recored stacking problem

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magnavox recored stacking problem

by troydog » Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:30 am

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I have a magnavox changer 718 4 speed unit. I have cleaned it re lubed it and all that fun stuff. But odd ball thing I can not fig out.


It will drop 1 lp or 10" at a time just fine. But 45 drop 2 to the whole stack at a time. I gave it a speed test with the 45 adapter on all three speeds and it drops them the same each time.

No 45 with out the large center hole do drop one at a time. The 45 adapter is the right one for this unit no moving parts with hole on top of it.

But if I use the adapter and hold the stack with my hand on top of the labels it will drop one at a time. Could the over head arm be to much presser I have no clue about this at all.

Heck finding a cartage was the hard art odd ball thing a 5060d. And to add the table was not used much at all it still had the shipping plastic on it.

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Re: magnavox recored stacking problem

by MattTech » Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:28 pm

Check the sliding latch at the tip of the spindle... is is free to drop complely down?
Any binding will allow multiple records to drop.

Check the stack of records on the spindle with the stabilizer arm on them...... view them from the side and the front....do they sit properly parallel to the platter, or at an angle?.. if so, the stabilizer arm is bent slightly causing multiple records to drop.

Also, the push-off lever in the spindle might be mis-aligned.... it should only lift/extend enough to push one record off the shelf at a time.
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Re: magnavox recored stacking problem

by troydog » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:38 pm

update still the same.

I pulled the deck once aging checking the way the auto part works. Simply system in a way large metal gear has a part on bottom that is round with a curve to it. There it pushes a brass round thing that moves a rod. All works fine. I even did a auto part buy pushing it with my finger.

This deck could be a w750 but no sure since the guide says w718. All I know is it is about 74 to 1976.

Checking spindle this easy it only goes one way there is a notch that the clip holds it into the table. Took it out works fine no problems at all with it moving. For fun gave it a shot of oil.

over arm this is not like other tables I have had. Does a magnavox over arm have some move to it when down on the records. By this I mean say the arm is on top of a stack can it move a little to the right not much just a little. Also looking at it looks leave and straight.


Other thing the 45 rpm adapter since it has no moving parts what so ever. Can it wear out? It looks like new and is the factory one. Heck a never seen a adapter like this with no moving parts to being with


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Re: magnavox recored stacking problem

by Bobby Basham » Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:01 am

Are you talking about one of those flat adapters? If that stablizer arm is bent, as MattTech mentioned, your stack of records could be tilted, causing the whole stack to drop. --BB

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Re: magnavox recored stacking problem

by troydog » Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:25 am

Yes it is a flat adapter with the hole on the left top side of it.
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Re: magnavox recored stacking problem

by Record-changer » Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:34 am

With those flat 45 adaptors, my advice is to get spiders and put them in the center holes. The only time I do not recommend this is with the Micro-Mini series with the forked overarm, like the W712. The speed and size index are wrong if the large hole is not present.

Those spindles suffer from too many troubles, including:

- Warped records slip past the record guide (the part that holds the second record back).
- The center hole at the bottom of the flat spindle is enlarged, letting it wobble.
- The large hole spindle is not fully engaged onto the small hole spindle. A turntable mat can prevent this.
- A slight bend in the small hole spindle is a serious misalignment when the large hole spindle is used.
- The small hole spindle is not securely locked, or the locking device is bent, letting the large hole spindle wobble.
- The record guide on the large hole spindle (assuming it has one) is stuck in a high position, letting more than one record drop.
- The overarm is slightly bent. This does not affect small hole operation at all.
- The flat spindle is warped slightly, letting records slip past the guide.
- On the W712, the overarm pantograph links are bent.

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Re: magnavox recored stacking problem

by troydog » Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:40 am

I think your right. I have over 600 yellow 45 inserts. Most of my 45's are Uk imports with small hole. So I could then stack them all together. Also the 45's adapter holder in the console is a pain in the rump to use it has to hook using the hole on top to a pin then snap into the holder. Inserts sound a lot better overall,

I say down with adapters and start a group to collect them all and burn them. :lol:

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