Recently Acquired Seeburg q100 Questions

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Re: Recently Acquired Seeburg q100 Questions

by Ron Rich » Tue May 14, 2013 4:23 pm

Rob,
Dis-agree somewhat with you here--The GOOD used parts suppliers, all have copies of the parts books, so that they can "pull" the correct part when needed. You are correct about the electronics, if "house numbers", which are generally useless, unless you have the cross over reference material. Ron Rich


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Re: Recently Acquired Seeburg q100 Questions

by syco54645 » Tue May 14, 2013 4:36 pm

Coming from pinball land all old parts are easily cross referenced on google for the new parts. I will have to check with a few suppliers once funds allow. I think the first order of business is the 2 cap kits though.


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Re: Recently Acquired Seeburg q100 Questions

by Ron Rich » Tue May 14, 2013 5:08 pm

Well,
Back in the "olden daze", When Jukeboxes and (many more) Pins (then today) were produced, "MusicGuyz", and "PinGuyz" did not like each others field--They were "two different worlds"--
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Re: Recently Acquired Seeburg q100 Questions

by syco54645 » Tue May 14, 2013 5:14 pm

Ron Rich wrote:Well,
Back in the "olden daze", When Jukeboxes and (many more) Pins (then today) were produced, "MusicGuyz", and "PinGuyz" did not like each others field--They were "two different worlds"--
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I am almost afraid to ask this one but the casing on the wire inside have become hard... Not sure if they are brittle... Should I replace them or should I be ok?


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Re: Recently Acquired Seeburg q100 Questions

by Ron Rich » Tue May 14, 2013 6:08 pm

I'm told that "hard is good"--but I don't recall that, any more--so--to answer what I think, is your question--
If the insulation will snap off, I would surely replace the wire ! ( or, at minimum, sleeve it )
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Re: Recently Acquired Seeburg q100 Questions

by syco54645 » Tue May 14, 2013 6:23 pm

Ron Rich wrote:I'm told that "hard is good"--but I don't recall that, any more--so--to answer what I think, is your question--
If the insulation will snap off, I would surely replace the wire ! ( or, at minimum, sleeve it )
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Ok that made me chuckle. I will investigate further and see if it is brittle at all.


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Re: Recently Acquired Seeburg q100 Questions

by Rob-NYC » Tue May 14, 2013 7:53 pm

"Syco" -What you may be feeling is the stiffening of the cloth loom that covers the cables from the mech, Tormat, keyboard. With the exception of cables that were allowed to rest on a tube, actual brittleness in a cable is very rare.

Over time the plastics that insulate the individual wires inside there can ooze a bit of petroleum from their base and this will make the loom slightly sticky. That, along with the general miasma of gunk that gets sucked into machine due to the temperature difference inside the cabinet.

Washing the entire mech (and everything else) generally eliminates the crackly feel in the cable.

I've had two instances where a mech tail cable had an open wire. I just cutaway the loom, replaced the wire and replaced the loom with spiral cable wrap or you can use split-loom tubing.

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Re: Recently Acquired Seeburg q100 Questions

by syco54645 » Tue May 14, 2013 7:59 pm

Rob-NYC wrote:"Syco" -What you may be feeling is the stiffening of the cloth loom that covers the cables from the mech, Tormat, keyboard. With the exception of cables that were allowed to rest on a tube, actual brittleness in a cable is very rare.

Over time the plastics that insulate the individual wires inside there can ooze a bit of petroleum from their base and this will make the loom slightly sticky. That, along with the general miasma of gunk that gets sucked into machine due to the temperature difference inside the cabinet.

Washing the entire mech (and everything else) generally eliminates the crackly feel in the cable.

I've had two instances where a mech tail cable had an open wire. I just cutaway the loom, replaced the wire and replaced the loom with spiral cable wrap or you can use split-loom tubing.

Rob


I was not referring to the cloth loom but rather the actual wire insulation. It feels really stiff. This was just inside the back door and I do not anticipate bending it around very much.


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Re: Recently Acquired Seeburg q100 Questions

by Rob-NYC » Tue May 14, 2013 8:03 pm

Ron Rich wrote:Well,
Back in the "olden daze", When Jukeboxes and (many more) Pins (then today) were produced, "MusicGuyz", and "PinGuyz" did not like each others field--They were "two different worlds"--
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Yeah, there was a sort of hierarchy. It went in ascending level: pins-jukes-video games. A FEW of the op's here were capable of board rework repairs on logic and deflection boards. Most just dumped (or tried to dump) their troubles on types like me.

Some of the larger op's also had phones and vending but I never paid much attention to those...This WAS a hobby.

Rob
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Re: Recently Acquired Seeburg q100 Questions

by Ron Rich » Tue May 14, 2013 8:23 pm

Rob,
"Music" was always my "job" (been doin' it since 1967--till I "retired" { :lol: } 5 years ago)--at either the factory or distributor level. I don't think there was any "hierarchy" around here--everyone had their "specialty", and stuck to it-
"Operation level", was a different story--either the "operator" did nothing, or had hired hands to attempt to do it all. Many of the "hired hands" were, as you have named them "Gepetto's", and would bring me things with tears in their eyes--and I would usually "bail them out"---
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