"Untested"

Hi Riley,
I "question" that also--there is at least one seller I know is either flat out stoopid, or a lier. He sells stuff that has totally wrong descriptions, and or, missing parts as "un-tested" all the time--and has apparently been able to pull this off for years--??
I dono--but I doubt I could sleep at night doing any of the stuff I catch on ePay. Ron Rich

"Dog", these two-bit businessmen are either scared or scheming.

Scared of electrical devices, or liars -scheming.

If one is selling -a- wallbox and little/no other juke related items I can understand the "untested" warning.

A wallbox is one of the very easiest juke related items to test. All that is needed for the old E-M boxes is a approx 25 volt 2+ amp transformer and a 28 volt lamp for testing pulse generation.

So, if the seller has other juke related items he should be able to do a basic test on a wallbox.

Rob/NYC

Wow, not I can relax! When I first started dabbling with my Seeburg 100 and purchased an "Untested" Auto Speed Unit from a seller on eBay I was naieve. Of course it did not work, which I suspected when I purchased the item. I kept an eye on this seller and noticed that he has been dealing in juke box parts on a regular bases for a number of years. I gave hime a neutral rating as I felt he was being deceptive at the very least. I now consider "untested" as the item does not work "BUT" if I am honest and tell you that you will not buy it. Several months later I went to make a purchase from another person that has a warehouse full of juke box parts and sells on eBay on a regular bases. I received a message that I could not buy from this seller? I found this very strange and initiated contact with the seller to find out why he would not sell from me. It turns out this seller is a good friend of the seller I gave the neutral rating to. The seller became verey irate with me an attempted to bully me into changing my rating of the other buyer (which I haveand still will buy items from with caution). I told him I would not change my rating and let him know why I felt the first seller deserved the neutral rating and I would no longer consider buying anything from the seller I was commuicating with because further examination revealed he also had been selling juke parts for years and used the same decptive selling technique in his eBay listings. It is sellers like those two sellers that can give decent parts sellers a bad name.

The moral of this is: always consider "untested" as meaning "not working".

Best
Darrell

Dog

Thank you for sharing, it is good to have a laugh now and then.

I reaaly enjoyed "it makes all the right noises and lights up". I wonder what noises they are referring to!

I would consider that as a non working juke box in need of some type of repair and base a price on the facts the seller provided.

Best
Darrell

Common Sense must be used when buying anything off websites.
"Ratings" are subjective as well...
That said, selling something with such vague ideas as to its functionality is just another way of shedding any responsibility during and after the sale.

"I dunno nuttin!" - DUH!
They just want the money, to hell with responsibility!
They're playing "smart"

But, I digress...

I found this claim on ebay interesting, especially the way it is worded:

"The cabinet keys are included except for the coin door lock which are available from several sources."

The person was selling a nice Seeburg 222 that needs the electronics broght up to date. I posed this question:

"I have always been told that no one can make a key for the Cash Box Door. Which vendor(s) have keys for the Cash Box Door? "

The reply:

"Victory Glass sells the lock and key assembly which is what you would want to do."

This is what I thought, the add was deceptive, you need to buy both a "key" and a "lock", not just a "key" as advertised.

Let the buyer beware.

Best
Darrell

Guy's,
Apparently this guy has "tested this", and found "---230 watts of max 50's power" ??
eBay # 251220935200
Maybe he has a "gypsy Tormat tester" ??
Ron Rich