Accessory input board for a Rowe R-84?

Hello all!
Does anyone know if there is an accessory input board that was offered for an R-84? I have seen a couple on Ebay, and various other places, but not sure if one would work for me, and if so, what part number...I would like to be able to plug my laptop into my juke and play MP3s also. My amplifier number is #60743802.
To Mr Hood, I appreciate your help since I've been posting questions here. In one post, you referred to a manual ,"Rowe Ami Shop Manual part number 3-65355-07 that was first produced in September 1981"....... I cannot seem to locate one anywhere....Can ANYONE help?
Thank you!
Andy Jones

The amplifier for a Rowe model R-84 jukebox is indeed # 6-07438-02 (sometimes written simply as 60743802). There is an accessory circuit board that plugs into the amplifier. It has tons of RCA jacks on it and gives you access to all kinds of signal inputs to and outputs from the amplifier both before the jukebox volume control and after the volume control.

You want # 2-66947-01 (sometimes written simply as 26694701) "Amplifier Accessory Kit".

Thank you very much!!
Andy

Hi All,
Rowe changed the parts numbering system either just before, or at the time they introduced CD phonos. All the numbers remained the same--just dropped the "dashes". I do not re-call what the 1st number prior to the dash was for, but the suffix two numbers, were the "revision #". In MOST cases, but not all, the last two numbers are not of much importance--If the first 6 are the same, units will probably interchange.
Seeburg did sorta the same thing--Added a two digit pre-fix. This was done, as I understand it, because they had a very high turnover in "parts pickers". The added numbers were the "row" number in the warehouse, that the part should be in-- Ron Rich

Hello, All,
I have one other question for all of you juke gurus out there...what is your opinion of this....."http://www.cdadapter.com/r84chip.htm" ? Every time I turn the juke on, it automaticaly starts playing a record. If you reset it, it goes to the next record in line, and so on, unless you hit reset, then hit the clear selection memory button on the CCC. Then it's fine, and plays entered selections normally, with the very occasional hiccup.Every once in a great while, it will go one record past the selected record. It sounds like it hits hard when it stops the magazine, and skips one notch past where it is supposed to be....Doesn't happen often, but....

Sounds like the CCC memory is corrupted due to a dead battery.

That replacement chip/board from CD Adapter sounds like a good unit and is probably worth installing.

I would agree with Ken--change the "Data-Safe" (battery), first.
I have yet to try the replacement unit, but would have no qualms doing so, as his products are good (and we are working on another project).
As for the stopping problem, USUALLY (might just be on "later units") that's the sign of the "rubber bushings" inside the Sprag gear" starting to "go bad".

Hello, all..
I kinda figured the battery was the problem, which is why I was contemplating the replacement chip, as it eliminates the need for the battery, and affords (so they claim) flexibility, easier troubleshooting, etc... It seems better all around..I also want to install their remote control setup.Thank you all for your input.
Andy

Andy,
Once you have done it, please post your thoughts on it. TIA Ron Rich

Ron...
I absolutely will! It's going to be a while, though...probably late June... funding, you know...I've been building it slowly buy surely.I'm pretty proud of it for my first attempt.I've been into radios tube sets mainly, since I was 8 years old, and I'm having a lot of fun learning about jukes. I can potentially get another freebie...an R-82 Black Magic.....One at a time, tho!

Andy

Hi Andy,

I agree with Ron, you should check out that sprag wheel and stem bushing both for wear to the spag wheel teeth and that the bushings have not rotted due to oil dripping on them when someone has oil the jukebox in the past (these mechanisms do not require oil at all). Bruce Wentworth sells a complete spag wheel with bushings.

Regards
Alan Hood
ami-man

Hi All,
Years ago, while I was working for a Seeburg Distributor ( or maybe the factory ?) a salesman came up to me and said he was having a hard time selling our jukes because Rowe's "need no lubrication". One of his customers had given him a copy of a Rowe sales flyer,and service manual, in which that statement was printed.
Well, I called Rowe on that statement--their engineer attempted to justify it by adding "in their projected lifetime". I was not happy with that (pointing out to him the large oil wicks in the motors), but he told me that he had to "stand by the statement"--
So, I called the motor makers--both of whom made motors that Seeburg used in other products. They did not agree at all. Both told me that the oil wicks needed to be filled at least once a year--and the "sprag motor" maker also suggested that a drop or two of oil should be applied to both ends or the large shaft, where the bearings were located. Both also supplied "spec. sheets" showing the oiling points.
I gave copies of these sheets to our salesman--and I have since needed to replace several sprag motors where the shaft wore an "egg shape" in the bearing--Lack of oil ?? Ron Rich

Thank you all! I guess I know what my project will be Sunday......and if the motors have oil wicks... they WILL get some oil...they weren't put there to look good....what oil do you recommend? 3 in 1? I have always used light mineral oil for phonographs, pot. shafts, tuner bearings, etc. in radios, with great results. It doesn't get thick and sticky over time.....
Andy

I use nothing but SAE 20 wt. ND oil--"3 in One" makes one in a 3 oz can--they call it "motor oil"--NOT "Household" or "Multipurpose" !
Most good hardware stores sell it, and it's also sold by "Granger"-- I buy it (another brand) by the quart, from a GOOD automotive parts house. Ron Rich

Hi Andy,

None of the motors on the R-84 and upwards have oil tubes or wicks, the turntable motor is sealed.
You can put a spot of oil on the the transfer and magazine motors. The transfer motor rotor has a an engage spring, if this is gummed up then you loose drive.

The R-80S to R-83 (1200 mechanism) as with the 1100 mechanism has an oil tube on the bottom bearing on the turntable motor.

Regards
Alan Hood
ami-man
UK