If I glue two 45rpm records together, how will it play?

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If I glue two 45rpm records together, how will it play?

by FixitDad » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:09 am

There are a lot of "B" side songs that are just terrible.

I was thinking about taking two records, and gluing the "B" sides together, so the end result is two "A" sides on, essentially, one record.

Has this been kicked around before?

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Re: If I glue two 45rpm records together, how will it play?

by MattTech » Sun Sep 25, 2016 5:48 am

FixitDad wrote:There are a lot of "B" side songs that are just terrible.

I was thinking about taking two records, and gluing the "B" sides together, so the end result is two "A" sides on, essentially, one record.

Has this been kicked around before?


I'm sure others wil be in agreement with me when I say it's a sloppy dumb idea.
I'd highly not suggest it.
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Re: If I glue two 45rpm records together, how will it play?

by FixitDad » Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:25 am

"Sloppy dumb idea"...I'm glad I wasn't drinking milk, it woulda come out of my nose...that made me laugh.


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Re: If I glue two 45rpm records together, how will it play?

by Ron Rich » Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:27 am

Itza sure fire way to get all good 160 selections--and a sure way to eventually ruin the jukebox! Ron Rich

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Re: If I glue two 45rpm records together, how will it play?

by DoghouseRiley » Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:48 pm

FixitDad wrote:There are a lot of "B" side songs that are just terrible.

I was thinking about taking two records, and gluing the "B" sides together, so the end result is two "A" sides on, essentially, one record.

Has this been kicked around before?


You would be better off taking your time and finding "double A sides," these were often released some time after original hits.
They turn up on eBay regularly.

I've a few in my two jukeboxes.


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Re: If I glue two 45rpm records together, how will it play?

by djricksha » Sun Sep 25, 2016 8:48 pm

Not a good idea, might as well put 7 inch record in the oven and make a peanut bowl, Trouble is the hole expands and the peanuts fall through. :)


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Re: If I glue two 45rpm records together, how will it play?

by TonyJ » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:46 pm

djricksha wrote:Not a good idea, might as well put 7 inch record in the oven and make a peanut bowl, Trouble is the hole expands and the peanuts fall through. :)


Not if you glue the peanuts together to make them larger...


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Re: If I glue two 45rpm records together, how will it play?

by djricksha » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:53 pm

Can't eat them with glue,, just use brazil nuts, No the best way to get double A sides is to have two jukes.


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Re: If I glue two 45rpm records together, how will it play?

by Rob-NYC » Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:36 am

I am going against the grain here (no surprise) I have used two records in Seeburgs since I got my first machine as a Christmas present in 1969. I also have about 8-11 "bi-packs" in locations.

I do not glue them, but where possible I use two thin vinyl disks. I have never had any problems with this practice.

Gluing together was popular in both Rowe and Rock-ola machines that I saw on location though I don't consider it a good practice to use two at a slot on gripper type mechs. The Wurlitzer carousel machines were thought to be the best suited for "bi-packing" of all the brands.

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Re: If I glue two 45rpm records together, how will it play?

by DoghouseRiley » Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:16 pm

Rock-Olas aren't ideal for having two records stuck together.
Insufficient attention is often paid to the centering of the gripper arm anyway, yet it's a simple adjustment. There's a danger that although it might be handling a single record OK, it may scrape a second record against the separators, if it's slightly out of line. That is if both records don't get stuck at the bottom of the slot.

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Re: If I glue two 45rpm records together, how will it play?

by Dewey Holcomb » Fri Sep 30, 2016 8:25 pm

Works like a champ in my Rockola 425, but took a bit of labor. Only try it with VG+ singles you can get for a buck or two on ebay.

I put painters tape covering the entire the A-side (might need to put paper over the label). Then I put a large piece of sandpaper on the floor and put the b-side face down and rubbed in circles for 15 min. Do the same to the other 45 you want to back it to, then clean them both up while keeping the painters tape in place.
When they are sufficiently worn down, use a generous amount of Super77 spray glue and stick them together. Put heavy books on them to dry over night, then carefully remove the painters tape in the morning.

Make sure there is no stickiness on the outside or inside edges. When I put them in the jukebox, I bend that record's slot apart just a tiny bit to accommodate the slightly wider 45. Can't put two of these doubles next to each other in the basket.

Purists probably wont like it, but with only 160 song slots, space is too valuable to waste on a song we wont listen to.


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Re: If I glue two 45rpm records together, how will it play?

by FixitDad » Sat Oct 01, 2016 3:00 am

Thanks for the recommendation the 77 glue. I'm gonna give it a go.

I'm looking at the existing record collection in the slots. Some are literally wafer thin, others are pretty meaty. I think it's just a matter of not having them bind up in the slot, not make them thick like bricks.

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